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[Bailey Guns]

Focus on local elections. Voting a straight R ticket will keep us in this cycle. Now is the time for a true 3rd party to form. We'd have already elected a Libertarian president if everyone who calls themselves independent or libertarian actually voted in line with their ideals.

No thanks. I'd rather see the Constitution Party take hold any day over the Libertarian Party. That would be a party a true conservative could support. I don't see much difference from the progressives in many libertarian ideals. Like the "if it feels good, do it, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else" type of attitude. That's part of the problem.

[COShooter]

No thanks. I'd rather see the Constitution Party take hold any day over the Libertarian Party. That would be a party a true conservative could support. I don't see much difference from the progressives in many libertarian ideals. Like the "if it feels good, do it, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else" type of attitude. That's part of the problem.

I'm fine with either, frankly. The difference between those parties and the Rs or Ds is simply that they have a desire to do right. The Ds and Rs have long ago abandoned the desire to do right.

[GilpinGuy]

No thanks. I'd rather see the Constitution Party take hold any day over the Libertarian Party. That would be a party a true conservative could support. I don't see much difference from the progressives in many libertarian ideals. Like the "if it feels good, do it, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else" type of attitude. That's part of the problem.

I have a a problem with some libertarian ideals, but the "do whatever as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else" ideal I actually support. If it doesn't hurt anyone else in any way, what don't you like? That's called liberty and freedom in my book.

[milwaukeeshaker]

Yes! Too bad most do not understand this concept.

I have a a problem with some libertarian ideals, but the "do whatever as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else" ideal I actually support. If it doesn't hurt anyone else in any way, what don't you like? That's called liberty and freedom in my book.

[roberth]

Yes! Too bad most do not understand this concept.

I'm still waiting for a separate thread on that topic. Then we can discuss the lack of personal responsibility among other things inherent with "do whatever as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else".

This topic isn't about how most people on this board would behave, it would be about how 90% of the population would behave.

[milwaukeeshaker]

I'm sorry, where did I say "no personal responsibility"? We were talking about Freedom. You know the kind the founders wanted.

I'm still waiting for a separate thread on that topic. Then we can discuss the lack of personal responsibility among other things inherent with "do whatever as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else".

This topic isn't about how most people on this board would behave, it would be about how 90% of the population would behave.

[roberth]

I'm sorry, where did I say "no personal responsibility"? We were talking about Freedom. You know the kind the founders wanted.

Take it to a new thread.

[milwaukeeshaker]

Not about to waste my time, thanks.

Take it to a new thread.

[Aloha_Shooter]

No thanks. I'd rather see the Constitution Party take hold any day over the Libertarian Party. That would be a party a true conservative could support. I don't see much difference from the progressives in many libertarian ideals. Like the "if it feels good, do it, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else" type of attitude. That's part of the problem.

People are individuals. Some "libertarians" are simply liberals (NOT progressives!) or anarchists who don't want to pay taxes.