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    I hate to admit this, but Liberals are smarter than Conservatives.

    Liberals get that to win the long game incrementalism is needed when an all out win isn't going to happen. That something which isn't perfect, is better than not only getting nothing, but getting the opposite of what you want which is going negative. (Having the other party get elected)

    Conservatives get hung up and squabble about small indifferences losing the game all together, only to say with a straight face that they're better and more principled since they didn't vote for the guy because he wasn't their perfect candidate.

    It's like a guy standing on a corner begging for money with a sign that says $100 bills only accepted and turning down anything less.

    Then bragging to the other beggars that he only accepts $100 bills presenting himself as being better than the rest of them , even though he ended up with nothing. While they accepted anything they could ending up with more money for the day.






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    ^ Agree, and you have just perfectly described Dudley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    ^ Agree, and you have just perfectly described Dudley.
    Yes, but he profits from his action. At least there is logic behind his actions, it's wrong, but it makes sense.

    People with nothing to gain that do it baffle me and are ultimately holding us all back.


    I'm waiting to see if Trump's rhetoric softens and his intelligence takes front stage. The old clip of him on Oprah is what he needs to embrace at this point to finish the win.

    If he doesn't, I'm thinking its a bet between him and the Clintons like this...

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dv5G7pTt7DY

    Or it's Perot part two. It worked for Bill the first time...

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    Rasmussen has Trump and Clinton even at 38% in a general election poll. First time Trump's been anywhere near Clinton in a poll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Rasmussen has Trump and Clinton even at 38% in a general election poll. First time Trump's been anywhere near Clinton in a poll.
    Since they're pretty much the same thing that means 76% of the people polled are effing stupid.

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    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...l?intcmp=hpbt1

    Not sure what he's hoping to accomplish. I'd always figured most in the RNP would rather have Cruz over Trump since Cruz is the more socially conservative of the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...l?intcmp=hpbt1

    Not sure what he's hoping to accomplish. I'd always figured most in the RNP would rather have Cruz over Trump since Cruz is the more socially conservative of the two.
    That is the mystery behind some of the self-styled conservatives who are pushing Trump. I understand why he's willing the open primaries -- he's pulling in people to vote in the primaries who may or may not vote Republican in the general but more than happy to vote for Trump in the primary because they don't care if they get Bernie or Hillary in the general.

    When specifically asked his opinions on Ted Cruz, Boehner made a face, drawing laughter from the crowd. “Lucifer in the flesh,” the former speaker said. “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.”

    Boehner described other Republican candidates as friends. In particular, the former speaker said he has played golf with Donald Trump for years and that they were “texting buddies.”
    But somehow, Cruz is portrayed as or claimed to be the "insider", the "Establishment" candidate? Don't get me wrong -- I think the NeverTrump types are ridiculous as well but I just don't see how someone who claims to respect the Constitution, conservative fiscal policies, national security, or conservative social policies picks Trump over Cruz (hell, even Trump over Kasich or Trump over Christie are mysteries).

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    Clinton and Trump the same thing?? C'mon! Not even.


    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    Since they're pretty much the same thing that means 76% of the people polled are effing stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...l?intcmp=hpbt1

    Not sure what he's hoping to accomplish. I'd always figured most in the RNP would rather have Cruz over Trump since Cruz is the more socially conservative of the two.
    If that's what you thought, where have you been? Both the entrenched right and left HATE Cruz and always have. Furthermore, both the entrenched right and left have stated they can work with Trump and always have. Hell, he has never used such strong words to describe a Lib. However, Boehner has publicly trashed Cruz many, many times in the past.

    This is the root reason why I simply can't comprehend how Trump supporters think he is the quintessential anti-establishment choice. The establishment folks have stated repeatedly they can work with him and have a history of doing just that.

    For a bunch of folks who want to burn down the establishment system, the Trump supporters sure are blind to who their guy actually is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    If that's what you thought, where have you been? Both the entrenched right and left HATE Cruz and always have. Furthermore, both the entrenched right and left have stated they can work with Trump and always have. Hell, he has never used such strong words to describe a Lib. However, Boehner has publicly trashed Cruz many, many times in the past.

    This is the root reason why I simply can't comprehend how Trump supporters think he is the quintessential anti-establishment choice. The establishment folks have stated repeatedly they can work with him and have a history of doing just that.

    For a bunch of folks who want to burn down the establishment system, the Trump supporters sure are blind to who their guy actually is.
    Yep, nevermind the BS rhetoric; Trump is certainly a vote for corporate America and the status quo, which is pretty damn funny when you think about it.
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