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    From what I understand, power production from coal has mercury as a by product, on a greater scale than the amount that goes into CFL bulbs. This could be seen as a reduction, or not a trade at all, depending where the numbers fall. Kind of like the argument that hybrids aren't any better than normal cars due to what goes into creating the batteries and using coal power to charge them.

    I will say that fixtures with only one socket are the worst for CFLs because the light quality is both low, and poor. My mother in law has a single CFL in a fixture on a tall ceiling and I want to tear my eyes out when I'm over there because it's like being in a cave. She won't let me change the bulb either.
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    Biggest problem with burning coal is the radioactive ash. If you want to use coal as an argument, it won't change the state for anything powered by it. Coal is used less here in the US, but is being used quite a bit in China. Does the lightbulb in your house get its power from China?
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    Less than what? Isn't coal still a majority of our electrical? I really don't know that. Also, I'm not arguing anything, except that light output and quality was really the only decent argument against CFLs. Although if I had all the issues that SAnd had, safety would also be a major concern.

    As of right now, I have enough CFLs to last me for probably the next 50 years (I got most of them for free). Now I'll NEVER be able to get rid of them!
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    Coal still has the largest percentage for electrical generation, but check out the trends; https://www.eia.gov/electricity/mont...cfm?t=epmt_1_1

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    Oh right, that will only last as long as cheap natural gas does though.
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    We'll probably be fueling everything with unicorn farts by the time we run out of natural gas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SideShow Bob View Post
    All AC powered lights do this. If you could high speed record any AC light source then slow the play back you will see tha they all "flash" at a 50 - 60 Hz rate.
    you really see it with them on a rheostat .
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    Quote Originally Posted by KestrelBike View Post
    Maybe I'm missing out on something: why were these apparently hated so much? The light quality?
    What roberth said. They were a greenie, carbon footprint scam that will cause more "ecological" damage in the long run than incandescents will .
    BUT it made people feel good about them self. Those same folks who CONDEMN BIG OIL, texting their kids while driving around in that lease Escalade.

    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    I don't like them because a - i like incandescent better; b - cfl contains mercury and cannot be easily disposed of; c - liberal environmentalists used the government to attempt to force us to buy them.
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    Fawk CFL's right in the p*ssy.

    So glad affordable LED's are here to stay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    What roberth said. They were a greenie, carbon footprint scam that will cause more "ecological" damage in the long run than incandescents will .
    BUT it made people feel good about them self. Those same folks who CONDEMN BIG OIL, texting their kids while driving around in that lease Escalade.
    Nah, that crowd would never drive an Escalade. Range Rover, Beemer, or Benz for those yahoos.


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    To suggest they drive something as plebian as a domestic -- even a Cadilac ... (to be fair, I refuse to buy Government Motors anymore myself but for reasons other than pretensions)

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