Dsa Sa58

[B-Ry]

I think I would like to get a DSA SA58 for my first semi-auto rifle. Is it best to order this from DSA, or a site like snipercountrypx.com, or some where local?

Also, would it be a bad idea to use any surplus ammo in a new rifle like this?

[Colorado Osprey]

The FAL deisgn like the AK will digest any ammo put in it.
Here is a lot of info on DSA from FAL Files:
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/forum...php?forumid=34

If you order direct from DSA you will probably pay full retail for their gun.
These guns available from a variety of sources and online gun dealers like Gunbroker, Auctionarms, Gunsamerica, etc.
I'm sure you can order one through site supporters and members like AlohaRover

No dog on DSA..fine firearms. Have you looked an an IMBEL FAL? You can save about $1000. I would stay away from Century like the plague though.(lots of horror stories), but I did once get a great Cetme from Century.

Good luck on suplus ammo.. well finding any that is.

[5.45x39]

You could order from DSA but you will likely have to wait months for it to arrive. I'd call ahead and ask about the potential wait time (and then double what they tell you ). Same goes for ordering a DSA from a third party. Obviously if you find one in a local shop you won't have to worry about waiting, and you'll be able to handle it before buying.

FWIW, you can get great deals on an FAL by buying a used one, with not much difference in quality. Also you won't have to deal with the wait obviously. I'd say check here, cologunmarket.com, and the FAL Files forums.

As for ammo, in general I'd say it's perfectly fine to use military surplus .308 in an FAL, new or used. That's all I use in my FALs. There are some exceptions, though. Do you have anything in particular in mind? Post the country of origin, year of production, and headstamp if possible.

[B-Ry]

The DSA website quotes $1700 for a new standard SA58, whereas I have only seen higher prices than that elsewhere ($1900 at Specialty Sports and gunbroker.com). I'm pretty positive it's the same model. How much should I be able to get one for elsewhere? I'd rather support a local shop if they carry it and have it for a good price.

[Eow]

As for ammo, in general I'd say it's perfectly fine to use military surplus .308 in an FAL, new or used. That's all I use in my FALs. There are some exceptions, though. Do you have anything in particular in mind? Post the country of origin, year of production, and headstamp if possible.

DSA does have a posted warning against using steel cased ammo like Wolf in its FALs, though I'm not sure exactly why.

[jerrymrc]

As said lots of info on the Falfiles. If you decide to build yourself I have the tools and have helped about 25 guys build there own. You can still build one for $900 or less. I know it is not like the old days when you could build one for $300.

If you are not inclined to build one there are many nice guns available for sale on the files and if you get one from an established member you will know that it will be sorted out. I have seen many DSA's that have issues right out of the box.

We also have Fal Fest the end of may/first of june down at the whittington center in Raton. I am the match director for the event.

[B-Ry]

I would be very interested in building one if I had someone experienced who could help me out. That's an awesome offer. Where do you recommend buying the components? Do you suggest DSA or another manufacturer?

[5.45x39]

I would be very interested in building one if I had someone experienced who could help me out. That's an awesome offer. Where do you recommend buying the components? Do you suggest DSA or another manufacturer?

You could get a kit from someone on the FAL Files, and the upper receiver too. I'd suggest getting a metric kit and receiver. For your first FAL though you might be better off just getting a used one. You should be able to get a very good used FAL for under $900. After you've shot it and figured out what you like and don't like, then you could build your own specific to your taste.

[BPTactical]

As said lots of info on the Falfiles. If you decide to build yourself I have the tools and have helped about 25 guys build there own. You can still build one for $900 or less. I know it is not like the old days when you could build one for $300.

If you are not inclined to build one there are many nice guns available for sale on the files and if you get one from an established member you will know that it will be sorted out. I have seen many DSA's that have issues right out of the box.

We also have Fal Fest the end of may/first of june down at the whittington center in Raton. I am the match director for the event.

Listen to Jerry- The man KNOWS FALs!

That is my understanding as well, that the SA-58 is completely new whereas the STG-58 is a typical mix of both surp and new components.

Uhmmm-not really.
They both are a hodgepodge of new and used parts.
The STG is the Belgian version (The original). You will get a new US reciever, HTS set, barrel, gas piston and p grip typically on either model.
The SA58 is a bastardization of the Rhodesian FAL. The true Rhodie has a 1" longer buttstock to accomodate lanky Swahilis.
To the best of my knowledge nobody builds a reproduction steel lower reciever or bolt carrier/bolt not to mention gas blocks, sights and bipods.
I believe DSA builds an aluminum Para lower but they are pricey.