Doesn't matter.Originally Posted by kidicarus13
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What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
-- Ayn Rand, Anthem (Chapter 11)
Bravo to apple for standing up to government. Because we all know once they have the key to unlock a phone the use won't stop on this one device.
Progressive ideology, ideas so good they must be mandatory.
Your freedom to be you includes my freedom to be free from you.
Trump shows his colors...
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/02/17/...kdoor-refusal/
I gotta agree with Apple on this: Creating a back door for law enforcement obviates any security that encryption provides. Additionally, given our government's track record with security (OPM breach, anyone?), it stand to reason that any back door would be quickly found and compromised by criminals, foreign governments, naughty and bored schoolkids, etcetera, once its existence was confirmed.“I agree 100 percent with the courts. In that case, we should open it up." […] "I think security, overall, we have to open it up and we have to use our heads. We have to use common sense," Trump continued, echoing his recent common refrain. Somebody the other day called me a common-sense conservative. We have to use common sense."
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Maybe I'm wrong but from my understanding is that the feds/judge did not tell apple to simply unlock the phone. That would be similar to getting a court order to have ATT provide cellphone data. The phone at this point with it's softeware cannot be unlocked without causing all the data to be corrupted. What they ordered apple to do was to create software/iOS update that would backdoor into an iphone. They are ordering apple to work for the government in creating something for one of their products that they have no desire to create. That would cause apple's iPhone value or perceived value to go down since their phones would no longer have such great anti-theft, anti-hack software.
IMHO the feds have every right to the data in the phone (he's dead jim, you ain't having a trial to convict a dead guy (and girl)) but if they want, they gotta get it. And they gotta get it themselves.
"The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot confirm their validity." -Abraham Lincoln
Apple should not open up that phone. Do you think the government is going to differentiate the phone of a deceased, proven terrorist from someone the government only thinks is a terrorist?
If you think Apple should comply then you shouldn't care when Apple opens your phone to the government.
Another possible scenario:
Apple already provided the necessary tools to the FBI to unlock the phone.
The FBI wants terrorists to believe their phones are "unhackable" so they will use them in greater numbers.
Meanwhile, the FBI will continue quietly unlocking them.
For their efforts, Apple gets a marketing boost by publicly "standing up to the govt," and their phones are now certifiably "unhackable."
Nothing is as it appears.
I like that, and very plausible.
Lessons cost money. Good ones cost lots. -Tony Beets
As a general rule, I hate all things Apple. This is not one of them. Bravo.
Think about it: They build a backdoor into their system. Someone unscrupulous gets their hands on it (not a matter of if, but rather a matter of when). Now they can steal a person's phone and have access to all the data on it.
Plus, now the government knows it *can* access anyone's data, so it just creates simplistic reasons to ("this person 'might' be a terrorist...after all, they went to a tea party rally, so unlock their phone!").
Not worth it.
Wait.. a passcode is now encryption? Should have guessed better with those other 9 tries.
They're just trying to read his txt messages.. just change the apple pw, log in to itunes, back it up and put it on another phone. Oh wait... you still have to disable the passcode. It's NOT FUCKING ENCRYPTION!
What I'm hearing now is that they just want to remove the "time out" for failed passwords, so they can use a brute force attack to gain access to the phone, or they want Apple to devise a way around the password so that the data does not get erase/corrupted. Either way, it sets a bad precedent by proving that it *can* be done.
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