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    Quote Originally Posted by muddywings View Post
    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...-rally-n528646

    Not saying right or wrong, but if I were a betting man, the agent will get disciplined. It's the way the world works...right now.
    I didn't get to see any longer footage of this 'protest', looks like things were less than pleasant for security while the BLM crowd were given a good leway.

    They were both amped up and both crossed the line (but the camera guy looks like Ward Churchill so,....what are ya gonna do!).

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    I always thought the proper way to handle a liberal was with a sock full of D batteries...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RblDiver View Post
    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1979...e-agent-video/

    It unfortunately cuts the episode into a few different clips, so there's not a good "continuous" recording, but it does have pretty clear audio of the very beginning.
    SS agent: "Get back in the pen."
    Photog: "F*ck you."
    SS agent: "What did you say?"
    (And that's where that particular recording stops)
    Clearly the SS agent took it as a personal insult and was not able to separate his ego from his esteemed employer. If he can't handle a simple F-word, then how can he protect the president? Obviously he does not have control over his emotions.

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    Might want to wait till the report comes out before making accusations off a few video clips.
    Just sayin

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    Quote Originally Posted by RblDiver View Post
    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1979...e-agent-video/

    It unfortunately cuts the episode into a few different clips, so there's not a good "continuous" recording, but it does have pretty clear audio of the very beginning.
    SS agent: "Get back in the pen."
    Photog: "F*ck you."
    SS agent: "What did you say?"
    (And that's where that particular recording stops)
    Chopped too close to get any context. Looks like photog is being a shit but still doesn't deserve the beat down.
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    Yesterday I talked to a friend of mine who's a tv news cameraman for one of the big 3 networks (he's also quite an accomplished shooter and has been to both Gunsite and Thunder Ranch multiple times). He was at this event and gave me his take on it. Trump events are unlike other campaign events. At most there is an area set-up for the still photographers and tv cameras as well as their reporters. Usually it's so they can get good view of the candidates and the crowds. During speeches the photographers stay in this area. At the Trump events they keep the cameras in these separated areas, pens, and he doesn't want them moving around (most outlets have multiple cameras-one for the platform pen and another to move around the periphery).

    Every now and then something happens at an event (protesters for example) and the photogs will try to get pics/footage of what's going on.

    Now generally it's the Secret Service that posts agents at these areas for two reasons: first to make sure no one without the proper credentials attempts to masquerade as a member of the press corp and that nothing "weird" goes on in this area.

    The photogs in this area also know that if the SS says you can't do something/go somewhere then you follow that directive. This TIME photographer, who's covered the White House for the past 8 years and isn't just some newbie, wanted to try to get pics of the protesters-the SS agent told him he couldn't leave the pen-my friend said he then cursed out the agent and attempted to barge through the area. The agent grabbed the guy, he struggled, the agent grabbed him by the neck and took him down. Once on the ground the guy kicked the agent and continued to curse at him.

    Now at these events SS agents are brought in from nearby offices to augment the travelling details. Many of them haven't been given the training the protective detail agents get. We all know you never win an argument with l.e. at the time of the incident. This photog for Time obviously just learned that lesson. Perhaps the agent could've responded differently, don't know. I do think the photog could've behaved much differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc45 View Post
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    Trump events are unlike other campaign events.

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    That's so the press doesn't see him shaking hands with all those Klansmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    That's so the press doesn't see him shaking hands with all those Klansmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Pook View Post
    Looks like photog is being a shit but still doesn't deserve the beat down.
    Pretty much my take.

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