Yup I'm giving Dave a hard timeOriginally Posted by funkymonkey1111
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Yup I'm giving Dave a hard time
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I belive Obama also quote Merriam websters
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He was giving the OP a hard time when the OP was citing a news article (not a legal brief) and well within common usage. I know Black's Law Dictionary is a bit more specific and actually in line with Gunner but DaveL wasn't presenting a brief to the court.
Nah, Obama is from the camp that makes it up rather than consult a dictionary.
I completely disagree and the fact his happens (not the only case) demonstrates the risk isn't low.
I do agree there is no perfect security. But turning it into a boolean proposition doesn't absolve Bass Pro of being careless if they left the guns out all night in a vacant store.
We're at a point were this kind of thing has collective consequences. I know we all hate that but it's true. Normally I wouldn't invest myself in someone else's miscalculated risk. But let just one of those guns be used in a shooting and see what happens.
Why I outta....
Everyone is way too uptight around here lately... It's an Internet forum! Education is a secondary priority whereas comic relief is the primary.
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"When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law." -Frederic Bastiat
"I am a conservative. Quite possibly I am on the losing side; often I think so. Yet, out of a curious perversity I had rather lose with Socrates, let us say, than win with Lenin."
― Russell Kirk, Author of The Conservative Mind
Well that sure sounds like a liberal argument... Are you sure that's what you meant?
Dictating the actions of the individual (taking away their liberty) for the benefit of the collective is the exact argument used to support ALL gun control, Obamacare, and most other progressive talking points.
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"When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law." -Frederic Bastiat
"I am a conservative. Quite possibly I am on the losing side; often I think so. Yet, out of a curious perversity I had rather lose with Socrates, let us say, than win with Lenin."
― Russell Kirk, Author of The Conservative Mind
Hopefully the thieves all went to an FFL and got their BGC's done.
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It is a Liberal argument and it is winning. I said we all hated it. Doesn't change our reality.
Evil black rifles "falling into the wrong hands" won't do us any favors. This is why the ATF ran Fast 'n Furious, to make sure guns fell into the wrong hands to create data points and heart wrenching tragedies to counter decreasing gun violence.
We see a failure of gun control in this. Feels driven voters see a need for more gun control.
Statistics, facts, etc... Won't matter.
In essence, we become Liberals' self-fulfilling prophecy by being stupid. Leaving firearms openly unsecured in a vacant store known by all to sell firearms is careless if not stupid. Just like none of us leave a gun in the open and unsecured when we leave our homes which are not known by all to have firearms.
(I am ASSuming that is what happened but I still want to know more)
I'm not saying the Liberal argument is right. I'm just saying folks shouldn't be stupid because the consequences are broad given the status quo.
And I never said Bass Pro should be forced to anything different. I said they were careless. I don't believe in a world where people are forced to make good decisions. But it's coming and stupid people are only hurrying it.
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