Court of Appeals reverses dismissal of RMGO's lawsuit over magazine ban

[JamesB]

I'll have to review the opinion when I get a chance and provide another take (from someone litigating there as well). Haven't read it, haven't watched the videos or analyzed all the BS flying. I can tell you flat out we do not want anything being reviewed by the Co Supreme Court. Look at the makeup sometime. Only certain questions would be redirected to the CO Supreme Court anyway. I have not seen Independence Institute take any action other than to prosecute this suit.

Also, I didn't see Dudley on this action last time I checked. Dudley was on the Post Office case which imho was a very stupid move. Trying to challenge every regulation is not beneficial when you understand how precedence works. Courts carefully craft it to support whatever good-fuzzy feeling they want at the given time. They are never going to have a good-fuzzy feeling about having random strangers with guns in their courtroom, and they can see a logical connection between precedence regarding a post-office and a courtroom. So... they carefully craft an opinion to do what they want, and that precedence gets perverted to deny clearer, more important issues. RMGO needs to pick and choose its positions to have the best possibility of winning every case. It also shouldn't be stealing credit and shit talking perhaps more altruistic organizations.

RMGO was the lead plaintiff in the magazine ban lawsuit mentioned above. RMGO paid the attorney fees of the attorney, Barry Arrington. The caption of the suit is RMGO v. Hickenlooper. The suit was brought for a specific purpose, to try to get life back into the State Constitutional right to keep and bear arms, which was eviscerated in the Robertson v. Denver decision about 20 years ago.

The Post Office lawsuit was first brought in 2010. It was instigated and funded by RMGO, although the attorneys at Mountain States Legal Foundation, who did the work greatly helped out by not charging anything close to full price for the work. Fresh after the Heller and McDonald Supreme Court decisions it looked like the courts might recognize a right to bear arms for self protection. The government interest in keeping guns out of their public, unsecured buildings and parking lots was very attenuated. Unfortunately the lower courts have basically ignored the Heller and McDonald decisions, and the Supreme Court has tolerated that. I don't think that was foreseeable in 2010. In terms of Postal carry, the upshot of the lawsuit is that the rules in place in 2010 continue to be in place. They can be overturned by a new administration, or by Congress.

[ChunkyMonkey]

I have learned an awful lot researching my positions.

Your avatar both here and there just kills it!

[asmo]

The dubious Technical Guidance letters were an effort by John Suthers and David Kopel (attorney for the Plaintiffs in the Federal lawsuit) to make the laws less all encompassing, and thus to keep them from being struck down. RMGO wants the laws to be judged on what they say and what the Legislature passed, not a backroom deal made to try to salvage the laws.

Are you an effing idiot?

Sorry, but coming in here and calling David Kopel, one of the most staunch defenders of the 2nd amendment ever, out saying he is one of the sources of the problem is nothing less that total and complete retardation or a complete lack of understanding that shows idiocy.

[asmo]

It's not that Dave Kopel is anti-gun. It's that he is willing to compromise what should be non-negotiable principles for illusory gain. In battling gun control, I don't think that's a winning strategy.

Or he played a VERY smart move, knowing full well (as did every other major 2A attorney out there) that guidance given by the DA is *NON BINDING*, and therefore showed prima facie that the law was flawed. Dave flat out said that was he whole purpose going in.

God I effing hate Dudley Brown.

[Zundfolge]

The simple truth is that the recreational MJ law worked exactly as planned and in the last year we've had more than a hundred thousand people move to this state and I guarantee you the vast majority of them are Democrats here for the weed.

This state is bluer than when the anti-gun laws passed and the chances of the R's taking back the house and pushing repeals dwindles with each passing new Californian, New Yorker and Illinoisan that becomes a Coloradoan. For that matter I wouldn't be surprised if the D's take the Senate this November (along with the socialized medicine ballot initiative getting wedged into the state constitution).

Taking a bit of the sting out of these bad laws is very likely the best we will ever get and Dudley's "All or Nothing" attitude will likely leave us with nothing. And what makes this stick in my craw even worse is that the gun laws are basically Dudley's fault because he went out of his way to prevent a pro-Gun Republican Senate candidate from winning just because the candidate refused to kiss Dudley's ring. Thus costing the R's the Senate and putting John Effin' Morse in charge of the show up there and that JBT wannabe has a hard on for gun control that rivals Bloomberg's.

I don't trust Dudley or his RMGO because I think he's only in it to line his pockets and if the gun laws go away he loses a revenue stream. He'd rather have nothing.

[brutal]

More proof Dudley is a POS.

(biased rags) but he's taking (or given) credit here for recall efforts, etc.

http://bigmedia.org/2015/10/01/with-...r-tim-neville/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-salzman/gun-extremists-may-propel_b_8228974.html

"Former Rocky Mountain News Media Critic Jason Salzman is the primary tweeter for BigMedia.org, which aims to hold journalists to their professional standards."

Kind of ironic that this clown spews untruths and drivel in his posts.


Also, Dudley and Tim Neville top my spam e-mail. Guess we know who Dudley sold our names to right? i mean, I'm sure he gets to write off the cost of the lists going to Neville in some form of campaign contribution scheme right?

I'm all for keeping the GOP in power, but what on earth possessed Neville to get in bed with Dudley Brown?