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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Excellent read.


    The more I read about leftist psychology, the more I'm convinced that the differences between left and right are not going to be able to be settled peacefully.
    I don't know where I'd start if I came upon a liberal who was open to hearing a different view. I think I might start with asking if they thought they were born with natural rights or if they think the government grants rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Excellent read.


    The more I read about leftist psychology, the more I'm convinced that the differences between left and right are not going to be able to be settled peacefully.
    Some more light reading that reinforces your post here.....

    https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2509007/posts

    There will always be those who are easily seduced by the offer of wealth and unlimited power. But one of the lessons we can glean from an unflinching look at history and human nature is that power-lust inevitably trumps greed. The power to harm others – and to harm others without consequence - is irresistible to a profoundly evil subset of humanity. Real trouble begins when such people acquire power.
    So here’s a bold assertion that many of you will dismiss out of hand: there are those in government - and those who seek control of your government - who simply want you dead. They would kill you if they could get away with it. Why? Because you are in their way. Failing that, they would settle for taking everything you have if they felt that they could do so without being held accountable. They would use the apparatus of the state to censor your speech, punish you for your politically incorrect thoughts, confiscate the fruits of your labor, seize your property, render you helpless and defenseless and in the end, dictate the very terms of your existence if they could do so with impunity. These are killers without conscience. We can come up with a long list of those whose outlook regard humankind as little more than chattel, but there are four individuals whose ideas connect the totalitarian dots in some interesting ways. They have a history and the ideas that animate them have a pedigree.

    A bold conjecture: that we will descend into a Balkanized nightmare of chaos and destruction as the entitled classes, egged on by the elites, try to cash those very bad checks that liberal socialists and their 'change agent' stooges have written for years and handed out in our schools, churches, culture and inner cities. Those checks - the wages of the sins of class hatred, gender warfare, phony self-esteem and racial division are going to bounce sky high when the goodies they've promised aren't forthcoming. It's the price many of us will pay for both cheering and applauding the transformation of this society into a mob of cannibals and looters, or for simply standing silently by in de facto approval while it happened under our very noses. Some of the fence-sitters, applauders and appeasers may actually understand this and regret their choices in their last few moments as they helplessly watch the mindless mobs their very bad ideas have enabled rape and slaughter their families by the light of their burning homes.

    Open warfare in this country is inevitable because there is no reconciliation possible with those who claim that your life simply does not belong to you. You cannot make peace with those who demand not only your economic submission, but your intellectual and spiritual surrender as well. The price of surrender has been and always will be more than anyone of reason and good will can ever care to pay.
    The history of communism is open, capital murder. Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, PolPot, Mao did not murder in secret, they did it right in front of the citizenry who being disarmed could do nothing about it, any attempt to stop it would have been suicide. We're on that road but the pesky Constitution keeps the (D) at bay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    I don't know where I'd start if I came upon a liberal who was open to hearing a different view. I think I might start with asking if they thought they were born with natural rights or if they think the government grants rights.
    Oh, oh! I know, I know. Pick me!

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    When I first became politically aware I grew to literally despise the left...the people, the ideals, the mentality...all of it. As I've gotten older and learned more and more of what makes them tick my rage has turned to bewilderment for the most part. As in, "How can someone be so fucking stupid as to possibly think electing someone like Obama or HRC is a good idea?" Seriously.

    This was a great essay and I enjoyed it.

    "They are generous with their emotions." Exactly. I've had that thought on the tip of my brain for a long time but always tried to make it more complicated. Actually elegant in it's simplicity. And spot on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    The left seeks to extinguish both of these points of light, and drown the entire world in darkness.
    Haven't read the article yet, but I'll say that I see it as simple as breaking it down to good vs evil... the left is obsessed with evil- leftist people may not be evil themselves, but they at least allow it to guide them, and some are consumed by it.

    That's the best explanation I can come up with why the left embraces Islam, completely turning a blind eye to the ideals within that conflict with their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    Haven't read the article yet, but I'll say that I see it as simple as breaking it down to good vs evil... the left is obsessed with evil- leftist people may not be evil themselves, but they at least allow it to guide them, and some are consumed by it.

    That's the best explanation I can come up with why the left embraces Islam, completely turning a blind eye to the ideals within that conflict with their own.
    They're fucking hypocrites plain & simple. "They" embrace islam, yet decry those opposed to same sex marriage as racist homophobes.

    Imagine every "progressive" being required to live with a sharia law mindset family for a few days. They'd be out, trowel in hand, working on that southern border wall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    Haven't read the article yet, but I'll say that I see it as simple as breaking it down to good vs evil... the left is obsessed with evil- leftist people may not be evil themselves, but they at least allow it to guide them, and some are consumed by it.

    That's the best explanation I can come up with why the left embraces Islam, completely turning a blind eye to the ideals within that conflict with their own.
    I see it as who do they see as the bigger threat to their agenda, narrow minded, bigoted muslims bent on world sharia or US citizens that don't swallow the left's Kool aid. You can tell a lot about a movement by who they choose as their enemy.

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