F@*K Microsoft...

[electronman1729]

Same problem here. 10 screwed up my machine. Had to redo all the drivers on my video and sound card. Additionaly all I hear is my cooling fans working over time.

[Grant H.]

Huh,

Been using 10 on all my work machines for quite a while with no issues.

For those not familiar with this problem, the Microsoft Windows 10 "update" will override your Windows Update settings. Even if you have the setting requiring update to get your permission for each update, Windows 10 will "check" itself for installation and it will install without your explicit permission.

Uh, no it won't. If you have Windows update set correctly it will wait for your input, period.

I manage 37 different computers right now and everyone of them had to be told they could. Not enterprise or anything, just normal Windows 7 and 8.1.

Several people I know have thought they would have the option to stop the upgrade if they click the button, but they don't. You have to kill the task. They told Windows it could upgrade, and it did. It didn't just up and do it...

[Grant H.]

Same problem here. 10 screwed up my machine. Had to redo all the drivers on my video and sound card. Additionaly all I hear is my cooling fans working over time.

Windows doesn't run your cooling fans... Those are hardware or bios controlled... If their behavior changed, something else changed besides a Windows 10 upgrade.

[Zundfolge]

Uh, no it won't. If you have Windows update set correctly it will wait for your input, period.

We had one machine here in the office spontaneously install Windows 10 and one of my co-workers machine at home installed Windows 10 without his input. Plus I've read dozens of internet postings of people complaining that Win10 installed without asking so I'm not sure what you mean by "hav[ing] Windows update set correctly".

Windows doesn't run your cooling fans... Those are hardware or bios controlled... If their behavior changed, something else changed besides a Windows 10 upgrade.

Again, the internet is full of people claiming their machines are overheating after the Windows 10 upgrade. Probably a matter of new Windows 10 drivers not working well with older hardware. I'm sure they just "set something up wrong" but hey it's not Microsoft's responsibility to pay for all the wasted man hours, lost data and damaged hardware they're causing.

I'm glad you've not had any issues with Windows 10, but do you run any old software or control any old hardware? I'm sure it works fine for people that do nothing but email, surf and MS Office, but its breaking computers that people use to feed their families all over the world, so I"ll stick with the "FU MS" crowd.

I swear I'd gladly give Adobe one of my testicles if they would just churn out a Linux version of Creative Cloud so I could dump both Microsoft and Apple (who are no better than MS).

[wctriumph]

I installed it Saturday night and so far, no issues. Seems to be working just fine.

[Grant H.]

We had one machine here in the office spontaneously install Windows 10 and one of my co-workers machine at home installed Windows 10 without his input. Plus I've read dozens of internet postings of people complaining that Win10 installed without asking so I'm not sure what you mean by "hav[ing] Windows update set correctly".

I'm glad you've not had any issues with Windows 10, but do you run any old software or control any old hardware? I'm sure it works fine for people that do nothing but email, surf and MS Office, but its breaking computers that people use to feed their families all over the world, so I"ll stick with the "FU MS" crowd.

Interesting. I have them all set to require approval for updates, and every single one that I have had any insight into, beyond hearsay, has had user involvement for the upgrade to happen. As I said, quite a few people just don't know that clicking any button in the latest update window means its going to update.

I use quite a bit of legacy hardware and software, since a lot of my customers are still using old serial devices (and supporting software). I also use GPIB, and even parallel with one customer. I've certainly had to play with several of my devices to get it tweaked around onto USB adapters, but I haven't found anything that just flat won't work on W10.

I am, by no means, a Windows only fanboy... I also do a lot on Ubuntu, so I guess I might be more willing to have to tweak stuff to make it come up and run.

Mac, however, can sucka-di-enda...

[izzy]

Windows doesn't run your cooling fans... Those are hardware or bios controlled... If their behavior changed, something else changed besides a Windows 10 upgrade.

The OS certainly can and will control cooling fans.

[TFOGGER]

Yeah, my dad installed it, it worked for 5 days until "patch Tuesday" when the machine reboots itself, it became unstable, and tried to run its own "recovery" mode, proceeded to break most of the drivers for the hardware, and became unbootable (stalled on boot for hours with nothing happening, guessing it was either the chipset driver or the video driver). To fix it, I had to reinstall Win 7 from scratch, then when it reboots to finish installation, boot into safe mode, use the command prompt to get into the device manage, and disable everything that had a broke driver so the installer could complete. Then I went back in and reinstalled all of the frickin drivers for the hardware so that the machine would run. Now reinstalling the software that was lost, not sure how we're going to recover the Quicken password if he can't remember it.

[babarsac]

I have had zero issues with 10.

The only difference was that I didn't upgrade.

I did a clean install.

[Gman]

I've run into an issue upgrading on one laptop that had Realtek NIC driver issues, but all of my home systems are Win10 and my folks systems are now as well. Win10 has been far easier to deal with than 8/8.1 IMO.

The biggest problem I have with MS is how heavy-handed they've been about getting people to upgrade. Then again, Apple does this when they release a new OS.