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    It's no secret I bought an RV about this time last year and used it as temporary housing during our move. Well, we no longer need it and have been looking to sell it. It's got a clean CO title (or so I thought). It's been a much tougher sell in this very small market as compared to somewhere like Denver so it's been on the market for a few months.

    A potential buyer showed up Wed, spent an hour crawling around all over, on top, underneath, etc. He made me a low-ball offer and I declined. No big deal.

    Thursday morning he called back, said the other, less expensive units he was looking at were not what he wanted, and made me a reasonable cash offer. I agreed. Friday morning we spent 2 and a half hours hooking it up and prepping it for moving from storage. Just as we were about to count money/sign title he asks me where the VIN is located on the trailer. So, I show him the tongue where the VIN is stamped. I then just check the number against the title. They don't match. The last two numbers are switched.

    Son of a bitch. Obviously, we can't complete the sale.

    So now I have to go through a major hassle to have this corrected. I know, I know...I should've checked it when I titled it in my name. But sometimes I just assume government workers can do their jobs without supervision. The number was correct on the title I got from the seller when I bought it...I checked. It was somehow entered incorrectly when I got the new title.

    My buyer is in a time crunch and there's no way I'll have this corrected in time for him to complete the sale before he leaves the state.

    I can only imagine what a time-consuming PITA this is gonna be trying to correct this from out of state.

    Moral of the story... Check titles for correct information. Don't assume people can do their jobs without supervision.
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    Every time I have titled something in CO they have asked me to varafy the information before we completed the transaction. Out of those times at least 2 or three times something has been wrong. Typos happen.
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    Normally, they give you a draft to verify if information is correct before signing the title transfer/registration. Or they did anyway when i re-titled/registering my car in El Paso, and then Douglas Cty.

    Humans are fallible. Frustrating yes, but the hassle soon to come is what helps prevent more autos theft in the state.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Planner View Post
    Normally, they give you a draft to verify if information is correct before signing the title transfer/registration. Or they did anyway when i re-titled/registering my car in El Paso, and then Douglas Cty.

    Humans are fallible. Frustrating yes, but the hassle soon to come is what helps prevent more autos theft in the state.
    Yes. After I surrendered the CO title signed by the seller, the clerk did the title and registration paperwork and asked me to verify the information. Everything was correct (obviously not the VIN) but I didn't have the 5th wheel there. I assumed the VIN would transfer in a computer from the old title to the new title. What was I supposed to do? Ask her to wait while I drove home and physically verified the VIN on the trailer?

    And I know mistakes happen. I've almost made one myself on occasion.

    It's just that some mistakes are more difficult to see initially and harder to correct when they're identified. And accountability seems to be a word that's no longer in use much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Yes. After I surrendered the CO title signed by the seller, the clerk did the title and registration paperwork and asked me to verify the information. Everything was correct (obviously not the VIN) but I didn't have the 5th wheel there. I assumed the VIN would transfer in a computer from the old title to the new title. What was I supposed to do? Ask her to wait while I drove home and physically verified the VIN on the trailer?

    And I know mistakes happen. I've almost made one myself on occasion.

    It's just that some mistakes are more difficult to see initially and harder to correct when they're identified. And accountability seems to be a word that's no longer in use much.
    I suspect the VIN was wrong on the previous title as well. Would be interesting to see if CARFAX has a record under the transposed VIN.

    I like the word responsibility vs accountability.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Planner View Post
    I suspect the VIN was wrong on the previous title as well. Would be interesting to see if CARFAX has a record under the transposed VIN.

    I like the word responsibility vs accountability.
    Nope. VIN was correct on the title I received from the seller. I know this because we initially used the VIN off the previous title to apply for a loan on it before deciding to pay cash. The loan paperwork has the correct title number.

    ETA: Also has the correct VIN on the bill of sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Nope. VIN was correct on the title I received from the seller. I know this because we initially used the VIN off the previous title to apply for a loan on it before deciding to pay cash. The loan paperwork has the correct title number.

    ETA: Also has the correct VIN on the bill of sale.


    Then that should make it easier. Maybe. Talk with the DMV, faxing them the bill of sale and the title showing the discrepancy. Hopefully that will be enough. Or you may be able to take the bill of sale directly to the ID DMV and get your new title there and avoid CO all together.
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    competent government????

    that's a joke right?

    and it used to just be occasional mistakes. Now it's everywhere, in everything.
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    That's frustrating as hell : (

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