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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    Anyone care about Hillary anymore?
    Great point! What the left needs now is a good ole diversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    Anyone care about Hillary anymore?

    To be clear on my point: no one is talking about mishandling classified information anyone.
    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
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    Plus 1 to this post. Nailed it exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    Such a tragedy. Life can be overwhelming if we let it. I will say prayers for those who are murdered and those who are injured unjustly.

    Two things occur to me:

    Police officers do not have an organized and coordinated plan to profile, assault, and/or kill black people. A few officers, scattered around the country are bad and do these things. A few officers have made poor decisions and done these things unintentionally. The vast majority of officers are dedicated to doing the best job possible, being safe, and going home at the end of their shift.

    Black people are not a monolithic group who follow the leadings of Al Sharpton, J. Jackson, #blacklivesmatter, etc... A few groups and several individuals have decided to target police officers. We don't know who or where these groups or people are until they make themselves known. Some groups and individuals, who are black are racist and dislike white people or hispanic people, or asian people, etc... The majority of black people would like to live their lives and pursue their own notion of hapiness just like other Americans.

    We cause problems for ourselves when we confuse who we are dealing with. If we wrongly judge the motives of other people or groups we often inflict pain and tragedy on others who do not deserve such treatment.

    I will make some suggestions and they are just suggestions: Try to treat others as you would like to be treated. Defend yourself without being defensive or offensive. Avoid situations you know or assume will be dangerous. Always try to be aware of your surroundings and be proactive about leaving before trouble begins. The hardest thing of all, is try to be humble. I struggle with these things on a daily basis, but when done well, these suggestions have helped me get through my career.

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    So the dude is a white hating, cop hating, islam loving, black power supporting, veteran? Damn, he really touched on all the current flash point issues didn't he.

    I mean seriously, he's like a dem poster boy.

    This stuff is going to snowball. The vast majority of LEO's have never treated it as an "us vs. them" job...but I suspect some more will be now. I hope all the boys in blue don't let this get to them, changing the way they police.

    This president has trashed this country more than we know. This is insane.

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    This is what it is to be a real cop. This is what we look up to and for in the worst of times. This is what makes the recent ambushes so reprehensible.

    That being said, the biggest thing to stop this insanity is that those "few officers, scattered around the country are bad and do these things." are held accountable so that justice is seen on all sides. It is when those few are seen to represent the whole that the unjustifiable is justified (wrongly) by the idea that two wrongs can make a right. I feel so deeply for the families of these innocent protectors just doing their jobs.

    To those cops out there 'be safe' does not seem to be enough in these times. I hope/wish we never have to hear about another story like this.

    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    Such a tragedy. Life can be overwhelming if we let it. I will say prayers for those who are murdered and those who are injured unjustly.

    Two things occur to me:

    Police officers do not have an organized and coordinated plan to profile, assault, and/or kill black people. A few officers, scattered around the country are bad and do these things. A few officers have made poor decisions and done these things unintentionally. The vast majority of officers are dedicated to doing the best job possible, being safe, and going home at the end of their shift.

    Black people are not a monolithic group who follow the leadings of Al Sharpton, J. Jackson, #blacklivesmatter, etc... A few groups and several individuals have decided to target police officers. We don't know who or where these groups or people are until they make themselves known. Some groups and individuals, who are black are racist and dislike white people or hispanic people, or asian people, etc... The majority of black people would like to live their lives and pursue their own notion of hapiness just like other Americans.

    We cause problems for ourselves when we confuse who we are dealing with. If we wrongly judge the motives of other people or groups we often inflict pain and tragedy on others who do not deserve such treatment.

    I will make some suggestions and they are just suggestions: Try to treat others as you would like to be treated. Defend yourself without being defensive or offensive. Avoid situations you know or assume will be dangerous. Always try to be aware of your surroundings and be proactive about leaving before trouble begins. The hardest thing of all, is try to be humble. I struggle with these things on a daily basis, but when done well, these suggestions have helped me get through my career.

    Be safe.
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    I've seen reports that this guy was angry over police issues, but nothing so far about Islam or being a hard-core racist. One of the officers he killed was black.
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    Well, once you make the decision to shoot at the police, you can't exactly be selective.
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    I know. It just illustrates the idiocy of targeting white cops when you know the probability is high that non-white cops will show up to help them. To me anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I've seen reports that this guy was angry over police issues, but nothing so far about Islam or being a hard-core racist. One of the officers he killed was black.
    Most of that stuff is in videos he posted or on twitter. He had youtube videos blasting "crackers" and working for white people. He praised the black panthers, malcolm x, and Elijah Muhammad. He defended the murders in Dallas calling it justice. He said he was a former member of the Nation of Islam.

    Yet once again, the media is starting to change the narrative to make his ideologies appear rightwing. On one video he mentions that he doesn't want to be associated with any group. Badabing, badaboom...he's part sovereign citizen movement...at least as far as the media is concerned. That explains it all, he's a crazy rightwinger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I know. It just illustrates the idiocy of targeting white cops when you know the probability is high that non-white cops will show up to help them. To me anyway.
    Well, they're traitors to the cause. House ... . The problem of the No True Scotsman fallacy.

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