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    Quote Originally Posted by Robb View Post
    Funny, he alligedly wanted to see it tonight but after I mentioned making an app at a FFL he fell off the map.
    From my experiences on Armslist that 3 out of 4 people are trying to buy without a BGC, once you state that it must go thru a FFL, the communications stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    I would have set up a meeting somewhere and then robbed him when he showed up.
    Is that why I'm always a few dollars shorter after I meet with you ? 😉
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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    I would have set up a meeting somewhere and then robbed him when he showed up.
    Nice! I like it.

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    Yeah, cuz most of us don't like being treated like crooks, and want our 2nd amendment purchases to be our business, not the Govt's.


    Quote Originally Posted by 86k10 View Post
    From my experiences on Armslist that 3 out of 4 people are trying to buy without a BGC, once you state that it must go thru a FFL, the communications stop.

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    Little bit sad that we now accept that those who don't follow the stupid laws we all complained about are now bad guys. Is that not the same argument the lady used for 'common sense gun reforms'?

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    Agree with all the others about meeting at an ffl. I've already had one inquiry on a gun I've currently got on Armslist where the buyer was shocked when I mentioned where I wanted to meet so he could look at it and do the transfer-"what transfer paperwork?" Bye bye.

    Ok I'll play devil's advocate: so the proverbial "you" sell a gun (let's make it that you bought post 7/13 on paper) to the proverbial "him" without doing the legal stuff. "Him" goes out and does something bad, gun is recovered and comes back to "you" and my oh my, "you" didn't follow the law. What happens to "you"? Unfortunately with our laws now I wouldn't even think of selling off paper-too much to risk loosing.
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    The simpler solution is to not sell a gun anymore... LOL.

    I was digging through all the random pictures I have and damn do I wish I hadn't sold most of the ones I have sold over the years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc45 View Post
    Agree with all the others about meeting at an ffl. I've already had one inquiry on a gun I've currently got on Armslist where the buyer was shocked when I mentioned where I wanted to meet so he could look at it and do the transfer-"what transfer paperwork?" Bye bye.

    Ok I'll play devil's advocate: so the proverbial "you" sell a gun (let's make it that you bought post 7/13 on paper) to the proverbial "him" without doing the legal stuff. "Him" goes out and does something bad, gun is recovered and comes back to "you" and my oh my, "you" didn't follow the law. What happens to "you"? Unfortunately with our laws now I wouldn't even think of selling off paper-too much to risk loosing.
    I was just thinking purely in terms of someone trying to rob/mug/rip-off the seller. Happens all the time on craigslist for non-firearms stuff. For the purposes of just "seeing" it, even if you decide to illegally transfer outside of the FFL, at least asking to meet at an FFL provides a much higher chance of filtering out people with criminal intentions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KestrelBike View Post
    I was just thinking purely in terms of someone trying to rob/mug/rip-off the seller. Happens all the time on craigslist for non-firearms stuff. For the purposes of just "seeing" it, even if you decide to illegally transfer outside of the FFL, at least asking to meet at an FFL provides a much higher chance of filtering out people with criminal intentions.
    Agree 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by esaabye View Post
    Little bit sad that we now accept that those who don't follow the stupid laws we all complained about are now bad guys. Is that not the same argument the lady used for 'common sense gun reforms'?
    There's also the chance of someone being contacted by an agency or dept trying to run a sting on those who would violate the law. So, it doesn't make much sense for them to go through with a deal when the seller stipulates following the law.

    Moreover, while one may or may not, within a trusted circle of friends, do such a thing as go old school on the sale, which is of course "illegal", one is still playing with fire should they choose to do so -- particularly outside a trusted circle.

    There's also a consideration for anything purchased after the BGC law needing to be sold completely on the up and up, as if there is no record of a legal sale, you have some explaining to do if it comes up at a crime scene or is otherwise found not in your possession.

    Stupid laws are indeed stupid, but that doesn't make their consequences any less consequential.

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