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    DavieD55 - thanks for posting that up - the first 3 minutes will tell anyone why TPP is a bad idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    DavieD55 - thanks for posting that up - the first 3 minutes will tell anyone why TPP is a bad idea




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    Yup, knowledge is king. The reason we're in this fix is because some idiot decided that feelings were more important than knowledge.

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    Here's the link to the full text of the TPP. Be sure you've got food, water, and someone to check on you every couple of days. It's over 5000 pages.

    https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/fr.../TPP-Full-Text
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    Check out the ISDS part of the TPP. Remember the movie, "Rollerball"? Yup, it's coming soon with the TPP...

    http://www.aflcio.org/Blog/Political...TPP-Very-Scary

    And this article: http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/20...aked-document/

    If a corporation feels that a government has impeded its ability to maximize profits, a suit is filed, outside the country being sued, and the case will be heard by an arbitration panel of trade lawyers, in a jurisdiction totally of the corporation’s choosing. Under ISDS, the dispute panel may only consider the ‘free trade’ values of the case. No other factors may be considered when deciding the case. This means that these corporate panels must disregard values of public health, civil liberties, environmental protection, or the rights of workers (e.g. working conditions) or any other Constitutionally protected liberties.
    And a YouTube explaining the EU-US trade 'deal':
    http://disciplejourney.com

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    I posted about this a couple years ago when I first heard about it on a foreign new station across the pond (seems to have been in the works for a while), but didn't get much traction then either....Definitely not a good thing (especially for us)....

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    As an economic policy, specialization makes a lot of sense. Look at Walmart and cheap Chinese products. If a country can produce a good faster and cheaper than can be done here, then it allows our economy to focus on other things (they make our toasters, we make their iPhones). On a smaller scale, this is one of the key principles that allowed the Union to win the civil war. A diversified, specialized economy can adapt and produce more than one based on individual, broad-spectrum production. That is just an idea from an economic standpoint and has nothing to do with sovereignty and home control of economic policies and regulations. Based on the last 7 years of the Obama administration and their many, many foreign policy victories, I have no doubt that there are massive initiatives built into the TPP that would erode US sovereignty and rule of law.
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