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We now have a 2nd trailer at CRC for schlepping props! If you have truck/SUV with 2" ball, it will greatly help setup and teardown.
Fun times today at the range. Was it hot? You betcha!! That did not keep us from having a great time.
Thanks to all for all the help with set-up, tear-down and, above all, for all the great ideas about ways in which we can keep improving this event!
Here is the link to results:
https://practiscore.com/results/html...9-9e9d2b5e63e8
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Lots of fun. Really starting to appreciate the need for speed for points and HF. Set-up and tear down were all faster. Tom and I spent a lot of time putting one stage up. It is interesting how paper plan has to be tweaked for reality. And someone always bitches in the end.
I wouldn't mind trying to design a stage. What is the best resource for the rules on stage design, versus reverse engineering from experience? The 2x2 walls are so much easier to work with, and I have some ideas on further light weighting. Maybe for the next one I could set up an 'experimental' bay to see how they might work?
Anyone else go for the face on the knife target?
Last edited by FromMyColdDeadHand; 07-07-2018 at 17:30.
I'll stop buying black rifles when my wife stops buying black shoes.
Impressive to have 46 shooters today. Well done folks.
As for stage design, the best bet is to just design one and send it to Matt or me along with your "theory" on what you are trying to test or do with the stage. Fresh ideas are good and sometimes get hampered if bogged down in the rules, so just let us tweak as needed afterwards.
Steel should really be at 55 yards for moving targets and 100 yards for static targets. Paper can be 1 to 200 yards, but think about reset time walking down to paper at 200. That said, you can do 3 or 4 arrays at 200 and then shoot that number of shooters before walking down and scoring.
One of the guys in our squad decided against stabbing and instead beheaded the target.Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand
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No doubt that stage design and building is always challenging. There is only one way to get better at this and that is to just do it.
Tom has a lot of experience doing both and he is great to work with. I have designed stages, given them to Tom and let him interpret the design by adding his own flair to it. I have yet to be disappointed by his execution. He always manages to take an idea and elevate the fun factor by quite a few notches.
As Mark said, start putting ideas on paper and share them with others. Be receptive to criticism and never, never, never fall in love with your own vision of the stage. It's humbling to watch another person dissect your idea and point out details that had not occurred to you.
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The stage that I helped Tom set-up had a lot of port shooting so placing the targets and the barrels to make sure that they were visible from certain ports and not others made for a lot of iterative changes to the positioning. And then when you move a barrier or a target, checking everything over again. The design was great.
Josh and Lauren were interesting to watch on our squad, and they didn't do stages the same way sometimes. The were a great help keeping us on track and really running our squad. One big thing I picked up from them was you have to shoot from inside the fault line, you don't have to stay inside it to move.
One question did come up on the 100 yard berm, There was a wall just outside the fault-line. Could that have been used as support (loose term considering the walls)? If I understood Josh, he said that standard USPSA rules would say "No", but we aren't "USPSA". I'm on my second iteration of 3-D printed barrier stops for my JP fore-end. I'm itching to use them at some point!
I'll stop buying black rifles when my wife stops buying black shoes.
The rule of thumb is that if a wall defines the edge of the shooting area, it can be contacted while shooting. If the wall is beyond the edge of the shooting area, then it would be a penalty to contact it while firing a shot. Granted we are not using USPSA rules, but they are still the baseline that we default to for anything not defined in the stage brief or the ruleset.
The rules state: Rangemaster has the final authority on all matters. In cases where the rules are silent, the principles of USPSA rules may be applied by the Rangemaster.
The best thing to do is to ask the MD/RM. If that is not expedient, then default to USPSA rules. Especially first squads, on things like that, it is perfectly okay to write it on the stage brief to make sure it gets done the same on other squads. I know that at the test match, we had a few squads do things that would not have been allowed (not safety issues) that gave them a big advantage. It is a local match, so not a big deal, except we do want to keep it so that everyone has the same stage to shoot. OTOH, there certainly are things that folks will do in competition that another person did not think about...that is not a reason to make it forbidden.
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