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  1. 08-05-2016, 12:09 #1
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    I'm intimately familiar with this situation and it was amateur hour with GVPD. There were other options to see if the bad guy was still in the house besides bringing in the heavy gear to knock holes in the house ultimately destroying it. It turned into a training mission. The suit was actually filed back in January.

    There are a few good cops on GVPD but that Dept has been plagued with bad administration/bad officers going back to the "suicide" of Lawrence Ocrant in 1984. Hasn't gotten much/any better.
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  2. 08-05-2016, 18:20 #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc45 View Post
    I'm intimately familiar with this situation and it was amateur hour with GVPD. There were other options to see if the bad guy was still in the house besides bringing in the heavy gear to knock holes in the house ultimately destroying it. It turned into a training mission. The suit was actually filed back in January.

    There are a few good cops on GVPD but that Dept has been plagued with bad administration/bad officers going back to the "suicide" of Lawrence Ocrant in 1984. Hasn't gotten much/any better.
    I'm gonna take issue with your statement, given I worked there for 10 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    I'm gonna take issue with your statement, given I worked there for 10 years.
    So what's your take on the situation. Did this seem like a reasonable outcome to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PSS View Post
    So what's your take on the situation. Did this seem like a reasonable outcome to you?
    From the outside looking in, I would say it was overly excessive; however, I wasn't there and there may be information they were privvy to that I am not. One thing to remember is, there were 3 SWAT teams from Aurora, Arapahoe SO and the GV ERT there, along with all their commanders. Douglas SO was also there with some toys. Also, it wasn't a simple shoplifting that started the event and to top it off, the suspect shot at an Aurora PD officer who is a friend.
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

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    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    I'm gonna take issue with your statement, given I worked there for 10 years.
    That's cool and I respect that, I still stand by my statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc45 View Post
    That's cool and I respect that, I still stand by my statement.
    If you think you are aware of the internal workings of the department, but weren't an employee there, you really don't know much then.
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    If you think you are aware of the internal workings of the department, but weren't an employee there, you really don't know much then.

    +1 That pretty much goes with any profession/company/industry.
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