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    I have been prescribed percocet before and I can definitely see how easily people can become addicted. I think I tend to be more susceptible to addiction than most, and ended up throwing a bunch of it away after a bone graft surgery because I knew I wouldn't be able to manage it responsibly.

    Edit: After watching that video above, maybe I just need better friends.
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    I think I've taken percocet once, and it didn't seem to do anything, so I didn't take the rest of the prescription. Had a whole bottle lying around for a while. I think I kept it for preps for a while, then eventually tossed it.
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    I really don't get how people get hooked on these prescription drugs. I've have a few surgeries and been given vicoden, percoset (sp?), yadda yadda, and I can't stand any of that shit.

    If I was in serious pain, sure, I'd take it. But I would be a drooling couch zombie for hours. F-that.

    I guess some folks like to be in that state.

    Those that have long term pain problems are another situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilpinGuy View Post
    I really don't get how people get hooked on these prescription drugs. I've have a few surgeries and been given vicoden, percoset (sp?), yadda yadda, and I can't stand any of that shit.

    If I was in serious pain, sure, I'd take it. But I would be a drooling couch zombie for hours. F-that.

    I guess some folks like to be in that state.

    Those that have long term pain problems are another situation.
    I think that different drugs affect people in different ways. My post right above yours illustrates how I didn't feel anything. I know I've seen a lot of people on here say they felt like drooling zombies on whatever drug, so they avoid it. I don't think it affects everyone the same way though.
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    Also it should be noted that there's physical pain and nerve pain. Having the joy of both I can tell you if you're in nerve pain you will consider ANYTHING to make it stop when it gets intense. It's kind of like your brain is torturing you.

    As far as how the pills effected me they made me not care. I could feel the bone on bone contact in injured joints. Meh. Sure my hand feels like it's on the stove but it must be time for another pill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilpinGuy View Post

    Those that have long term pain problems are another situation.
    This answered the first part of your reply. LONG TERM PAIN.

    Some can and some cannot take OTC's or other forms of pain mgt. Some can and others cannot control the substance they take. Be it alcohol, cigarettes, illegal substances OR pharmaceuticals.

    Some people are in continual pain that warrants heavier doses of ANY script / opiate. Some manage the Mg subscribed, others cannot. Unfortunately there's no cookie cutter solution.

    For some an addiction to easier to get drugs is the path. Others have friends, family, support group[s] "prayer" and most of all some will power, to do as much as possible to not allow the drug to ru[i]n their life.

    It could take weeks or years to wean one off said opiate. OR it could take one to the grave.

    Regarding the "Heroin Influx" It's been here for decades. Prescription Opiates has taken that need or demand to a level that hasn't even scratched the surface.
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    Back to solving the problem, here's one idea that I think is a step in the right direction: Legal, supervised, injection centers. "More people are seeking treatment, HIV transmission from needle sharing has dropped and fewer people are injecting drugs, according to a report which analyzed 15 years of drug data and was cited by the Vancouver Sun in a 2013 article."

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    I had Tramadol prescribed for a toothache. Took it for 4 days, then quit taking it. The withdrawl symptoms were horrible. I could imagine what it would be like if I took it for two weeks. Bad part was knowing it would all go away, if I just took another pill. Finally got a root canal and crown.
    When you have the withdrawls, you start sweating when feeling cold. Heart racing, skin crawling wanting to vomit, extreme nervousness, stomachache, etc. You literally feel like you are going insane! Watch out for synthetic opiates. Screw that !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulf202 View Post
    Also it should be noted that there's physical pain and nerve pain. Having the joy of both I can tell you if you're in nerve pain you will consider ANYTHING to make it stop when it gets intense. It's kind of like your brain is torturing you.

    As far as how the pills effected me they made me not care. I could feel the bone on bone contact in injured joints. Meh. Sure my hand feels like it's on the stove but it must be time for another pill.
    I can testify to this. I had a herniated disc in my neck after an injury in the Army, and the disc was pushing on the nerve root... That is some pain you wouldn't believe. It got so bad, even after the docs gave me vicodin, that the prescribed schedule did almost nothing for me. They upped my Rx to oral morphine pills (the nasty little red ones). I thought for sure I'd get hooked on those, so I took them sparingly and dealt with the pain until surgery. Post-op, Percocet. I was given a 2 month supply for recovery, and after three months still had plenty left over because of the fear of getting dangerously addicted. I didn't sleep for about 20 days straight, thanks to the pain. I see it in my job all the time, normal, everyday, mid-20's folks coming in that a year prior were great kids, no criminal history, and they get hooked. Heroin is a nasty substance, and for a while, our jail's medical unit had only two non-opioid withdraw people. It happens to normal people, like Foxtrot says, and it's awful. We're working on getting NarcON for our agency to help (that's the antidote stuff that Foxtrot mentioned). This is a real issue, and it's not just the junkies that are affected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    Back to solving the problem, here's one idea that I think is a step in the right direction: Legal, supervised, injection centers. "More people are seeking treatment, HIV transmission from needle sharing has dropped and fewer people are injecting drugs, according to a report which analyzed 15 years of drug data and was cited by the Vancouver Sun in a 2013 article."

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/02/22...n-ny-city.html
    Or there is the opposite response which is going on in the Philippines right now. I'll post the story when I get home.
    Tl;dr version is new President says he'll solve the drug issue in 3-6 months...by killing dealers and addicts. Police have killed over 700 people and vigilantes have killed over an additional 1,000.
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