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    Good luck Bert. This sucks on so many levels!

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    Its certainly easy to say since i'm not in the business, but have you considered implementing the ITAR surcharge? 250 projects a year--$10 per, and you're gold.

    I'll bet 99% of the folks that have benefited from your work would pay. The other 1%? Well, they were already assholes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    And that's exactly what they want.. People to give up
    Part of me agrees but I can't fault anyone who doesn't feel like taking up the cause on their family's dime either. Some are more suited for civil disobedience than others and I won't judge anyone who doesn't want to take on the .gov on a solo mission.

    Ultimately, this is some SHIT news and I'm sorry for what you're being forced to do BP.

    In similar news, my wife had to show ID yesterday to pay (one of our final) truck payments in cash due to new Colorado laws that turn banks into the IRS and tracking who does ANYTHING with cash because of legal pot and laws concerning potential cash use.... allegedly. So now my wife and all of your wives, grandmothers and children are suspected drug dealers if they present cash in a banking transaction. Freedom folks!

    I feel less and less free every day I wake up in what is supposed to be the freest nation on earth. Dafuq?
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    Now we wonder what affect this will have on the attendance for the Gunsmith School down in Trinidad and other similar such schools??

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111 View Post
    Its certainly easy to say since i'm not in the business, but have you considered implementing the ITAR surcharge? 250 projects a year--$10 per, and you're gold.

    I'll bet 99% of the folks that have benefited from your work would pay. The other 1%? Well, they were already assholes...
    Not a bad idea.

    Frankly, I'd like it if EVERY business itemized ALL the .gov BS they have to upcharge for.

    i.e.

    Actual product -- $10
    Gov BS 1 -- $2
    Gov BS 2 -- $0.50
    Gov BS 3 -- $4.00
    Gov BS 4 -- $1.32
    -----

    Your cost: $17.82
    Your cost without gov BS: $10

    Bet a lot of people would be a little less democratic at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    Not a bad idea.

    Frankly, I'd like it if EVERY business itemized ALL the .gov BS they have to upcharge for.

    i.e.

    Actual product -- $10
    Gov BS 1 -- $2
    Gov BS 2 -- $0.50
    Gov BS 3 -- $4.00
    Gov BS 4 -- $1.32
    -----

    Your cost: $17.82
    Your cost without gov BS: $10

    Bet a lot of people would be a little less democratic at that point.
    This is an excellent idea but I wonder to the legality of it. I know that they already itemize 'tax' on receipts but people are so conditioned to seeing it it doesn't phase most that it's a few that is largely waste due to inefficiencies at the Federal level. Maybe if it were more itemized people would pay more attention to how their 'feel good laws' actually affected everyone on a daily basis. I also feel like that in most firearm related transactions the intended audience wouldn't be reached as it wasn't the pro2A folks who voted for such taxes/fees... or in some cases nobody had a say at all. Talk about government by the people of the people & for the people.
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    I sure as heck would pay the BP Tactical ITAR subsidy...

    But, having been involved in ITAR stuff, I completely understand Bert not wanting to be a part of it.
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    What the hell am I supposed to do with this pile of guns I was going to have you work on?

    This is bullshit. A direct affront to our 2A liberties, if you ask me. But hey, the democrats aren't coming for your guns, right? They're just gonna regulate them into outer space, no biggie.

    GEDIT: Admittedly I haven't done much research on the subject, but where was the NRA on this one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    And that's exactly what they want.. People to give up


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    But what happens when enough people give up? When the producers stop producing?
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