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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumline View Post
    Yeah a bunch of Representatives have gone to jail, but it can be argued that they are relatively small fry. My point was that I doubt Hillary or Bill have anything to be worried about, no matter who wins this year or in 4 years. I would love to be wrong about this but I'm too cynical to expect anything else.

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    The Clintons are an institution and there are plenty of people in their camp, and associated, that have much to fear. A lot of the protections afforded to the Clintons over the years is based on media/Dems in Washington willing/able to carry their water. That may not be the case now.

    Look at the IT workers taking the Fifth. Those are just IT guys who could easily claim ignorance and they're too scared to tell the truth. One didn't even show up!

    Hillary would likely die before going to trial. Bill is too old and would probably get a pass. Chelsea is a conspirator (email alias) and directly involved in the Clinton Foundation's "cash for favors/info/access" scheme. In a just world, she would be prosecuted. Her hedge fund failure husband has no other way to maintain their lifestyle. And they have a lifestyle they'll kill for. Which means keeping the Clinton "institution" alive.

    Exploring everything would be very damaging to the foreign and corporate interests who bought power/info. If people knew the truth, this is the kind of thing that would trigger widespread reform in DC. The elites would be locked out from all these back channels.

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    Post on Drudge this morning...

    Which Democrat Should Replace Hillary?

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...eplace_hillary

    The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 48% of Likely Democratic Voters believe Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, Clinton’s primary rival, should be their party’s nominee if health issues forced her out of the race. Twenty-two percent (22%) say Vice President Joe Biden should be the nominee, while only 14% opt for Virginia Senator Tim Kaine, the current Democratic vice presidential candidate. Nine percent (9%) of Democrats think it should be someone else.
    Something to think about. They didn't pull Clinton this week (and they should have*) which means she is "all in."

    One reason they can't pull her is the above. The folks are with Bernie. The elites won't have him. Kaine is the appointed back-up man but can't get the votes. Pulling Clinton (now or later) means provoking this Dem Civil War that goes all the way through November. The circular firing squad in a general is a guaranteed loss.

    Their best shot is keeping Clinton in and hoping she turns the polls around. I don't think she can. She's low/no energy with big negatives (lying/trustworthiness). She'd be in defense mode up until Nov as it is. Wikileaks isn't doing her any favors nor is Congress. Trump's negatives are turning around. His only landmine appears to be the tax returns he won't release and I don't think there's anything there or Obama's IRS would have leaked them already.

    So if you're wearing tin foil then you have to wonder what else Dems can do to create a win in Nov. They can't pull her and they can't really promote her.


    * Any moral/decent people would have pulled her. It's the best thing for her and the country. But it means giving up the White House.

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    Conspiracy theory alert...

    What if this is all an orchestrated act to give Obama his third term?

    I'm only half joking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by exxonv View Post
    Conspiracy theory alert...

    What if this is all an orchestrated act to give Obama his third term?

    I'm only half joking...

    More plausible:. What if this is all being orchestrated by Putin to make sure Trump wins?

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    LOL - either way, this is all very strange!

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    Quote Originally Posted by exxonv View Post
    Conspiracy theory alert...

    What if this is all an orchestrated act to give Obama his third term?

    I'm only half joking...
    I'm not sure it's even half funny.

    Think of the possible scenarios...

    1. Clinton stays in, spending the next two months defending on email/treason and health...
    1a. Loses (polling is going that way as I type even suggesting she may lose the EC)
    1b. Wins
    2. Clinton is replaced by Sanders, elites rebel, still a big chance they lose in Nov
    3. Clinton is replaced by X, Berners rebel, guarantying a loss in Nov


    So one/four of those scenarios ends well for Dems. And it requires she recover in the polls WHILE having nothing new come out about the email scandals. And it requires she be able to recover from her pneumonia* well enough to make that lie seem true and debate Trump.

    Now consider that Dem elite know all of this now and they've known for months (even while in the primary). Consider that Obama has declared Trump will not be president while his party pushed forward someone he knew was unelectable on multiple fronts. And yes, Obama has all the dirt on Clinton's treason and pressured Comey (via Lynch) to come up with a reason to let it slide.

    What would they do? Turn over the massive amount of power consolidated in the Executive to Trump with uncertainty of control in Congress? And the next president will nominate two Supreme Court justices (at min). That's a disaster for Democrats and that is why they are so hysterical.

    If scenario #2 or 3 were going to happen it would have happened on Monday. They'd want to make that decision ASAP to start introducing a new candidate and get the Dem Civil War out of the way. Right now, they have less than two months and can decide how they want to lose (defending Hillary or fighting over another nominee), intervention withstanding.

    So how likely is it that the election would be postponed due to unprecedented events?


    *It ain't pneumonia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    *It ain't pneumonia
    I just hope this isn't one of those custom engineered biological weapons I have posted about recently. They get a sample of your DNA and then build a microbial organism specifically tailored to you. I'm not a biologist, so I am just repeating what I read. If she went to the ER they would have probably run some lab tests. Instead she goes to her daughters apartment. A medical professional I know, said the shaking of the head before collapsing is indicative of a neurological problem. So much for Obamacare!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    A medical professional I know, said the shaking of the head before collapsing is indicative of a neurological problem. So much for Obamacare!
    The analysis I saw on TV by a Dr. said that her gait as she was trying to walk was also indicative of a neurological issue, not "pneumonia".
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