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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I think you need a history lesson. In the democratic party, the Clintons ARE the powers that be. They've been getting away with murder (figuratively...and maybe literally) since long before any of the current big-whigs in the party came along.
    Hmmm...for allegedly being the string-pullers of the Democrat party, they sure are impotent if they couldn't keep the super delegates in line 8 years ago.

    I'll give you that they are influential as power brokers, but they are not the ones financing the Democrat machine and thus are not the ones setting policy and strategy within the party.
    Edit: I really don't know about that last part. I'm just going off of the "golden rule"...he who has the gold makes the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    the Clintons are desperate to win this election because the power of electoral office is the only way they can avoid impartial investigation and prosecution.
    I wish I shared your faith in the criminal justice system. When was the last time a senator (let alone immediate family of a former president) went to prison? The only one I could find was Harrison Williams in 1982, and apparently he was the only one in 80 years prior, although it's not clear if they meant the only sitting senator in 80 years.
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    I hear it's being called LUNGHAZI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumline View Post
    I wish I shared your faith in the criminal justice system. When was the last time a senator (let alone immediate family of a former president) went to prison? The only one I could find was Harrison Williams in 1982, and apparently he was the only one in 80 years prior, although it's not clear if they meant the only sitting senator in 80 years.

    Not a senator, however Dan Rostenkowski did time, Jackson Jr, Blagovich, PA State SJ is heading to the greybar hotel. There's a few legislators who did time.
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    Yeah a bunch of Representatives have gone to jail, but it can be argued that they are relatively small fry. My point was that I doubt Hillary or Bill have anything to be worried about, no matter who wins this year or in 4 years. I would love to be wrong about this but I'm too cynical to expect anything else.

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    Post on Drudge this morning...

    Which Democrat Should Replace Hillary?

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...eplace_hillary

    The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 48% of Likely Democratic Voters believe Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, Clinton’s primary rival, should be their party’s nominee if health issues forced her out of the race. Twenty-two percent (22%) say Vice President Joe Biden should be the nominee, while only 14% opt for Virginia Senator Tim Kaine, the current Democratic vice presidential candidate. Nine percent (9%) of Democrats think it should be someone else.
    Something to think about. They didn't pull Clinton this week (and they should have*) which means she is "all in."

    One reason they can't pull her is the above. The folks are with Bernie. The elites won't have him. Kaine is the appointed back-up man but can't get the votes. Pulling Clinton (now or later) means provoking this Dem Civil War that goes all the way through November. The circular firing squad in a general is a guaranteed loss.

    Their best shot is keeping Clinton in and hoping she turns the polls around. I don't think she can. She's low/no energy with big negatives (lying/trustworthiness). She'd be in defense mode up until Nov as it is. Wikileaks isn't doing her any favors nor is Congress. Trump's negatives are turning around. His only landmine appears to be the tax returns he won't release and I don't think there's anything there or Obama's IRS would have leaked them already.

    So if you're wearing tin foil then you have to wonder what else Dems can do to create a win in Nov. They can't pull her and they can't really promote her.


    * Any moral/decent people would have pulled her. It's the best thing for her and the country. But it means giving up the White House.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumline View Post
    Yeah a bunch of Representatives have gone to jail, but it can be argued that they are relatively small fry. My point was that I doubt Hillary or Bill have anything to be worried about, no matter who wins this year or in 4 years. I would love to be wrong about this but I'm too cynical to expect anything else.

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    The Clintons are an institution and there are plenty of people in their camp, and associated, that have much to fear. A lot of the protections afforded to the Clintons over the years is based on media/Dems in Washington willing/able to carry their water. That may not be the case now.

    Look at the IT workers taking the Fifth. Those are just IT guys who could easily claim ignorance and they're too scared to tell the truth. One didn't even show up!

    Hillary would likely die before going to trial. Bill is too old and would probably get a pass. Chelsea is a conspirator (email alias) and directly involved in the Clinton Foundation's "cash for favors/info/access" scheme. In a just world, she would be prosecuted. Her hedge fund failure husband has no other way to maintain their lifestyle. And they have a lifestyle they'll kill for. Which means keeping the Clinton "institution" alive.

    Exploring everything would be very damaging to the foreign and corporate interests who bought power/info. If people knew the truth, this is the kind of thing that would trigger widespread reform in DC. The elites would be locked out from all these back channels.

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