80% lower Question

[Joe_K]

I'm aware of these factors making a difference, and yes, using a steel bushing would be a 100% diy-accomplishable task that would fix it. I don't count myself in the standard DIY group, because I have a lot of tools that most people do not.

Just trying to get him to back up his assertions that 80% lowers don't work, since they actually do.

I think different folks have different standards for works. There are so many variables to 80% lowers that it's hard to generalize, but knowing SA Friday and the shop that employs him I know first hand that his proclamation that 80% lowers are bad news isn't a plot to get you to spend more money in the shop, as some have suggested.
If the 80% lower is obtained from a reputable source and has been machined to Spec and then the owner mills out the final 20% to Spec, and then the raw aluminum is finished correctly...to Spec, and the lower parts kits are installed correctly and are themselves made to Spec then there should be no problems. However few are set up this way and generally the cost is higher then simply purchasing an Aero, BCM, DD, Spikes etc factory finished lower. The QC processes of say Aero Precision for example are almost always going to have a higher standard then the average home build.

Velocitas, Opprimere,
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[jkoby27]

A lot of chips on shoulders around these parts lately...

I didn't want to start an uproar with Irving, SA, or any other members. Just wanted to share my project with some local gun enthusiasts. I felt like I was trying to be criminalized and that my posts were under appreciated by a few and that's why I got defensive. I would like to apologize and clear this up cause I don't wanna be the guy who created some Internet forum drama.

[ray1970]

I'm just going to keep mine for a paperweight because it's so bad ass.

[ray1970]

Or maybe build a non functioning display rifle.

If that's legal.

[hurley842002]

I didn't want to start an uproar with Irving, SA, or any other members. Just wanted to share my project with some local gun enthusiasts. I felt like I was trying to be criminalized and that my posts were under appreciated by a few and that's why I got defensive. I would like to apologize and clear this up cause I don't wanna be the guy who created some Internet forum drama.

Oh I'm certainly not referring to just you, I think as far as things go, what's done is done, perhaps start over and discover this is one of the best forums on the net, and a good majority of the folks here are some of the best people in the gun community. Like text messaging, I think sometimes posting on here generates the wrong intentions, and folks take things the wrong way, sometimes the emoticons help, but sometimes they don't, and there is butt hurt. At any rate, I hope all is squashed and the show can go on.

[TFOGGER]

I like pie.

[Irving]

I have no beef with anyone. I was just trying to be an emissary between the site and you long enough for you to get a feel for the community and realize that no one was trying to chase you away. You seem to have come around and haven't disappeared, so looks like everyone can move forward now. Welcome to the site.

[jkoby27]

Haha that lower is pretty cool man. I wonder if a non functioning display rifle could be an sbr or if that would require a tax stamp even though it's non functioning and only for display?

[J]

I thought we banned chip?!?

[J]

Haha that lower is pretty cool man. I wonder if a non functioning display rifle could be an sbr or if that would require a tax stamp even though it's non functioning and only for display?

If it's not a rifle, no stamp. If it is, stamp required. He could throw a 7" bbl on it, and if it was unmachined, and therefore couldn't have a FCG added, no fowl.

BUT!!! If he has an SBR upper, and a functioning AR lower aside from the display, and no SBR lower, constructive intent would bite him in the ass since he could easily swap the upper to another lower and have an SBR.

NOW, if the upper was likewise non functional, could be legal again.