Carrying on school property

[Rumline]

There's an elementary school near my house and I'll often take my non-school-aged kid there on the weekends to play on their playground. There's always a number of families/kids there playing so I figure it's fine to use their facilities outside of school hours.

The other day I was there with my kid and I saw another parent roll up who was obviously carrying. He had a button-down shirt tucked into skinny jeans. I noticed the clips from his Crossbreed holster on his right hip and mag carrier on the other side, plus the corresponding bulges. I thought it was funny because other than the gun he looked like a hipster, complete with Prada sunglasses that he wore despite the sun already being below the horizon.

Anyway I didn't think it was legal to carry onto school property even with a permit, regardless of if school is in session or not. Is that correct? My purpose is not to narc on the guy; seeing him just made me wonder about the legality.

[68Charger]

LEO are exempted, IIRC

Maybe he was a narc?

[KS63]

If he's not LEO, he's ignorant of the law.

[Snowman78]

*** All titles of the Colorado Statutes have been updated and are current through the laws passed during the 2016 Legislative Session, subject to final review by the Colorado Office of Legislative Legal Services. ***

TITLE 18. CRIMINAL CODE
ARTICLE 12. OFFENSES RELATING TO FIREARMS AND WEAPONS
PART 1. FIREARMS AND WEAPONS - GENERAL

C.R.S. 18-12-105.5 (2016)

18-12-105.5. Unlawfully carrying a weapon - unlawful possession of weapons - school, college, or university grounds



(1) A person commits a class 6 felony if such person knowingly and unlawfully and without legal authority carries, brings, or has in such person's possession a deadly weapon as defined in section 18-1-901 (3) (e) in or on the real estate and all improvements erected thereon of any public or private elementary, middle, junior high, high, or vocational school or any public or private college, university, or seminary, except for the purpose of presenting an authorized public demonstration or exhibition pursuant to instruction in conjunction with an organized school or class, for the purpose of carrying out the necessary duties and functions of an employee of an educational institution that require the use of a deadly weapon, or for the purpose of participation in an authorized extracurricular activity or on an athletic team.

(2) (Deleted by amendment, L. 2000, p. 709, § 45, effective July 1, 2000.)

(3) It shall not be an offense under this section if:

(a) The weapon is unloaded and remains inside a motor vehicle while upon the real estate of any public or private college, university, or seminary; or

(b) The person is in that person's own dwelling or place of business or on property owned or under that person's control at the time of the act of carrying; or

(c) The person is in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance and is carrying a weapon for lawful protection of that person's or another's person or property while traveling; or

(d) The person, at the time of carrying a concealed weapon, held a valid written permit to carry a concealed weapon issued pursuant to section 18-12-105.1, as said section existed prior to its repeal; except that it shall be an offense under this section if the person was carrying a concealed handgun in violation of the provisions of section 18-12-214 (3); or

(d.5) The weapon involved was a handgun and the person held a valid permit to carry a concealed handgun or a temporary emergency permit issued pursuant to part 2 of this article; except that it shall be an offense under this section if the person was carrying a concealed handgun in violation of the provisions of section 18-12-214 (3); or

(e) The person is a school resource officer, as defined in section 22-32-109.1 (1) (g.5), C.R.S., or a peace officer, as described in section 16-2.5-101, C.R.S., when carrying a weapon in conformance with the policy of the employing agency as provided in section 16-2.5-101 (2), C.R.S.; or

(f) and (g) (Deleted by amendment, L. 2003, p. 1626, § 51, effective August 6, 2003.)

(h) The person has possession of the weapon for use in an educational program approved by a school which program includes, but shall not be limited to, any course designed for the repair or maintenance of weapons.

[Monky]

Concealed is concealed..

On a side note.. props to him for managing that with skinny jeans on.

[Rumline]

(3) It shall not be an offense under this section if:

[...]

(d) The person, at the time of carrying a concealed weapon, held a valid written permit to carry a concealed weapon issued pursuant to section 18-12-105.1, as said section existed prior to its repeal; except that it shall be an offense under this section if the person was carrying a concealed handgun in violation of the provisions of section 18-12-214 (3); or

(d.5) The weapon involved was a handgun and the person held a valid permit to carry a concealed handgun or a temporary emergency permit issued pursuant to part 2 of this article; except that it shall be an offense under this section if the person was carrying a concealed handgun in violation of the provisions of section 18-12-214 (3); or

(e) The person is a school resource officer, as defined in section 22-32-109.1 (1) (g.5), C.R.S., or a peace officer, as described in section 16-2.5-101, C.R.S., when carrying a weapon in conformance with the policy of the employing agency as provided in section 16-2.5-101 (2), C.R.S.

Wait...so is (d.5) saying that it's legal if you have a permit? I don't have a LexisNexis account so I can't follow the links.

Concealed is concealed..

On a side note.. props to him for managing that with skinny jeans on.

Agreed...if I wasn't familiar with the look of Crossbreed's clips I probably wouldn't have noticed at all. Only after doing a double-take did I notice the printing/bulge.

[crays]

I'd make a comment about you noticing his bulge, but this is a family forum...

[.455_Hunter]

No saying it apples here, but it is often extremely difficult to determine the boundaries of school property. Schools are frequently co-located with parks, and the delineation is non-existant.

[crays]

http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/...R.S.+18-12-214

or

C.R.S. 18-12-214

Either link should be accessible without sign-up/registration

18-12-214. Authority granted by permit - carrying restrictions



(1) (a) A permit to carry a concealed handgun authorizes the permittee to carry a concealed handgun in all areas of the state, except as specifically limited in this section. A permit does not authorize the permittee to use a handgun in a manner that would violate a provision of state law. A local government does not have authority to adopt or enforce an ordinance or resolution that would conflict with any provision of this part 2.

(b) A peace officer may temporarily disarm a permittee, incident to a lawful stop of the permittee. The peace officer shall return the handgun to the permittee prior to discharging the permittee from the scene.

(2) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law.

(3) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvements erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school; except that:

(a) A permittee may have a handgun on the real property of the public school so long as the handgun remains in his or her vehicle and, if the permittee is not in the vehicle, the handgun is in a compartment within the vehicle and the vehicle is locked;

(b) A permittee who is employed or retained by contract by a school district or charter school as a school security officer may carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvement erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school while the permittee is on duty;

(c) A permittee may carry a concealed handgun on undeveloped real property owned by a school district that is used for hunting or other shooting sports.

(4) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a public building at which:

(a) Security personnel and electronic weapons screening devices are permanently in place at each entrance to the building;

(b) Security personnel electronically screen each person who enters the building to determine whether the person is carrying a weapon of any kind; and

(c) Security personnel require each person who is carrying a weapon of any kind to leave the weapon in possession of security personnel while the person is in the building.

(5) Nothing in this part 2 shall be construed to limit, restrict, or prohibit in any manner the existing rights of a private property owner, private tenant, private employer, or private business entity.

(6) The provisions of this section apply to temporary emergency permits issued pursuant to section 18-12-209.

[68Charger]

Concealed is concealed..

On a side note.. props to him for managing that with skinny jeans on.

Nope, I cannot bring myself to do that for anybody wearing skinny jeans if they have a penis (I don't care what they identify as, I don't have to give them props)

ETA, they're free to do whatever they want, I'm also free to not appreciate it in any way... in general I just don't care.