2 Families, 2 Conversations

[Bailey Guns]

Family 1: I stopped in a convenience store yesterday to refill my coffee cup. I grabbed an impulse packet of those little mini-donuts that were on the counter for .50 cents. As I was leaving a 30-ish looking guy with 3 little boys was approaching the door. The kids were in front so I held the door open for them. The dad told the boys, "That was very nice of him to open the door, huh? What do you say?" The two older boys, maybe 10 and 8, both gave the perfunctory "thank you" and walked inside. But the little guy, almost 4, stopped, pointed at the package of donuts I had in my hand and asked, "May I have one of your donuts, please?"

Very funny and very cute, I thought. How the hell do you say no to that? I figured it was someone telling me I didn't need mini-donuts. Dad was mortified and kept apologizing for his son..."I'm so sorry, he's only 3, he'll be 4 in a month, we're trying very hard to teach him manners", etc. I assured him it was fine and asked if I could share a donut. He said it was OK with him. So I told the little boy I'd give him the donuts if he'd share with his brothers. He said he would. Everyone was happy and I left with a smile on my face...even though I didn't have donuts.

Family 2: I had a stop on my route at an older but well-kept and neat, single-wide, owned by a local church in an outlying logging community whose best days are long since gone. The church maintains this place as a temporary home for families in need and I've been there several times.

When I got there I noticed a lot of trash in the yard, the grass wasn't cut, junky car...typical "I don't give a shit" look about it.

The "needy" lady of the house (turns out she was 22) came out to greet me while I was filling the tank. 3 dirty little kids, youngest was just past toddler stage to about 5 or 6 for the oldest (mom started very young apparently...but never confirmed they were all hers, either) were outside, running around out of control...trying to climb on the truck, crawling under the truck (PTO shaft spinning and all) and just generally being a nuisance. The girl started talking...boyfriend/baby daddy was 25, suffering from some illness that didn't allow him to work, she didn't work, just moved to ID from WA, hate it here because public assistance (she used that term) was hard to get, can't "smoke" like she did in WA, church was letting them live rent free and paying for propane delivery, empty toy boxes trashing up the yard were donations from church members, blah, blah, blah.

Being polite I mentioned I had recently moved to the area as well from CO and loved it. She got very excited..."That's where we're going as soon as we can get gas money! It's easy to get public assistance there and we can smoke without getting arrested."

My first thought was asking her how much she needed for gas. Then I thought, that's they type of person flooding into CO.

You guys are so screwed.

[bnred9]

Yes we are

[Skip]

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Being polite I mentioned I had recently moved to the area as well from CO and loved it. She got very excited..."That's where we're going as soon as we can get gas money! It's easy to get public assistance there and we can smoke without getting arrested."

My first thought was asking her how much she needed for gas. Then I thought, that's they type of person flooding into CO.

You guys are so screwed.

I see you're again advertising for your relocation program.

Site admins should really start charging you for advertising

[Sawin]

Yep...we're already being screwed here... I just hope the inflow of this sort of person is tempered after November when other states legalize it as well...

[Dave_L]

Yup...Colorado is THE spot now. Its trendy, urban traveler friendly, legal weed, craft beer, cool mountains and stuff to go ruin, etc.

[Grant H.]

I'm looking forward to getting away from the Front Range at least.

My concern is that we have imported enough of these morons that they will actually get Amendment 69 passed, and we will all be saddled with 10% tax on top of everything else. I have met a few people who think it's a good idea because the companies that are employers will be paying 6.667% and the employee will only pay 3.33%. When I explained that this would just drive companies out of CO, they thought I was kidding or lying to them. If this crap passes, I won't be in CO anymore.

Your last statement is true, but more so for the Country as a whole than just CO.

[Skip]

I'm looking forward to getting away from the Front Range at least.

My concern is that we have imported enough of these morons that they will actually get Amendment 69 passed, and we will all be saddled with 10% tax on top of everything else. I have met a few people who think it's a good idea because the companies that are employers will be paying 6.667% and the employee will only pay 3.33%. When I explained that this would just drive companies out of CO, they thought I was kidding or lying to them. If this crap passes, I won't be in CO anymore.

Your last statement is true, but more so for the Country as a whole than just CO.

69 will probably force me out of the state as well.

But it's polling horribly (last time I checked). While some believe the lie (free lunch) many understand the employer portion will be pushed back to employees. I believe there are many Libs who say they support something but actually don't want to pay the true costs of that thing. The ACA educated a lot of people the hard way.

[Grant H.]

69 will probably force me out of the state as well.

But it's polling horribly (last time I checked). While some believe the lie (free lunch) many understand the employer portion will be pushed back to employees. I believe there are many Libs who say they support something but actually don't want to pay the true costs of that thing. The ACA educated a lot of people the hard way.

I sincerely hope that the polling is correct. You are right, it is polling poorly, but that doesn't necessarily account for the free-loading druggy element that is growing rampantly here.

I don't put much faith in polling anymore since it's too easy for it to be skewed. There is so much disinformation being thrown around by every camp this election cycle, that we'll just have to wait and see where the chips fall, fraud or not.

[68Charger]

69 will probably force me out of the state as well.

But it's polling horribly (last time I checked). While some believe the lie (free lunch) many understand the employer portion will be pushed back to employees. I believe there are many Libs who say they support something but actually don't want to pay the true costs of that thing. The ACA educated a lot of people the hard way.

I've been looking for polls, if anyone sees any I'd like to see the results... (though it's a moot point, I'm GTFO anyway)

[roberth]

69 will probably force me out of the state as well.

But it's polling horribly (last time I checked). While some believe the lie (free lunch) many understand the employer portion will be pushed back to employees. I believe there are many Libs who say they support something but actually don't want to pay the true costs of that thing. The ACA educated a lot of people the hard way.

Yes, those costs will impact the non-upper-manglement employee, and the prices on goods and services will go up too.

All costs imposed on companies are borne by the consumer. The end.