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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    I was all in on GJ in 2012, but the guy has gone completely nuts. People who want fiscal responsibility, small government, and adherence to the Constitution are NOT represented in this election.
    Agreed. So what should people do? Stay home and not vote? Or vote for the least intolerable?
    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
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    It is a two man race. Voting for anyone else is just stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    Agreed. So what should people do? Stay home and not vote? Or vote for the least intolerable?
    Run a prevent defense. In other words, vote for the better of the two options in an attempt to prevent the worst option from winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    ...he is better than Hillary or Trump.

    Besides, Hillary is going to win regardless - so might as well vote your conscious.
    I'd have to disagree with you on that. He's better than Hillary- only slightly, but in a lot of ways he's much more liberal, especially on domestic security policy and economics, than Trump. Also, don't forget, GJ is a supreme outsider (Trump at least has some substantive backing from the GOP), who is not likely to win any large scale support, and even if he miraculously did win, he wouldn't get much cooperation from either side of the aisle. Not saying Trump will do a whole lot better, but I think substantially better than GJ would. Oh, and to add... GJ is a f***ing moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    He is the least bad of all the options. Is he perfect, not even close. But he is better than Hillary or Trump.

    Besides, Hillary is going to win regardless - so might as well vote your conscious.
    Ah, a needs of the one kinda guy.

    FWIW, people that stayed home or voted 3rd party in 2012 are why we're in this shit show we are now.

    But hey, as long as your conscious is clear right?

    GJ is a dumb ass, fake Libertarian.

    Just MHO.

    FWIW, I mostly despise Trump, but will vote for any douche that has a chance against the giant shit sandwich that is HRC. If Trump wins, we can rest assured he will surround himself with the best and brightest to help make important decisions and soften his demeanor. I think even if the RNC is successful in retaining power in the Congress, we're fucked for the next generation if HRC is able to appoint prog District and SCOTUS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post

    GJ is a dumb ass, fake Libertarian.
    Exactly. Just one example, anti-gun VP pick William Weld.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    He is the least bad of all the options. Is he perfect, not even close. But he is better than Hillary or Trump.
    If the LP candidate was Austin Peterson, I'd agree with you 100% (I'd still vote Trump because stopping Hillary is more important to me).

    But Gary Johnson is as bad as Hillary or Trump ... he's a moron ... and he's sold his own side out (especially with his VP pick and the way he was a jackass to Peterson).
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    If you are conscious of, and comfortable with the reasons that drive your vote, your conscience will be at ease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    FWIW, people that stayed home or voted 3rd party in 2012 are why we're in this shit show we are now.
    A Republican party that continually puts forth uninspiring garbage candidates can be held responsible more than the people who voted third party. If there were someone who wasn't simply "not as bad as the other guy" there'd be more folks actually wanting to vote for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogaroheli View Post
    A Republican party that continually puts forth uninspiring garbage candidates can be held responsible more than the people who voted third party. If there were someone who wasn't simply "not as bad as the other guy" there'd be more folks actually wanting to vote for them.
    The republican party doesn't cast votes, the people do. Whatever shit they put up is better than whatever shit the DNC puts up.

    I'll say it again, perhaps more clearly. I'm voting AGAINST HRC by voting for Trump. A vote for GJ is not a vote against HRC.
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