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    Default Bill Clinton on Obamacare: Has Hades frozen over?

    Bill Clinton calls Obamacare 'the craziest thing in the world'

    "So you've got this crazy system where all of a sudden 25 million more people have health care and then the people who are out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half. It's the craziest thing in the world"

    Of course, we all know that this is the setup to the next government "fix" to the problem that they created in the first place...

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/04/politi...ing/index.html

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    Can Donald Trump restore sanity and save us from oppression? Vote in the election!

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    Yep, that is not even a good smokescreen. HRC will try to abolish it by replacing it with a one-payer system...the .gov. That is what most of the liberals wanted in the first place and none I have talked to ever wanted the ACA to be too successful.
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    The purpose of Obamacare has ALWAYS been to destroy the health insurance market so that the people will clamor for socialized medicine, so that they will control our precious bodily fluids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    ...so that they will control our precious bodily fluids.
    I've got some not so precious bodily fluids that they can have for free...unless they're on fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    The purpose of Obamacare has ALWAYS been to destroy the health insurance market so that the people will clamor for socialized medicine, so that they will control our precious bodily fluids.
    Quoted for absolute truth. How many want to wager HRC will do her damnedest to try and institute the single payer system? Like MarkCO said, it's what the Progressives wanted from the start. They're always saying "look at Canada!" Yeah, what they're not saying is that Canadians used to come here to get operations done because the wait was so long up there. Wanna see how good a single payer system will be, just look at the VA.
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    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
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    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCO View Post
    Yep, that is not even a good smokescreen. HRC will try to abolish it by replacing it with a one-payer system...the .gov. That is what most of the liberals wanted in the first place and none I have talked to ever wanted the ACA to be too successful.
    Yup, this right here. Obamacare doesn't work because it was never designed to work. It was designed to fail and when it fails the only 'solution' will be single payer.

    I've been saying that since 2009. It seems clear as a bell that it can't work the way they say it will work.

    There are several ways we could end up with single payer:

    One way would be that as more and more private insurers drop out, there will be a push to get Congress to either create a new agency to give health care to people who can't get an insurance plan in their area, or to expand medicare/medicaid to include more and more people, and once that agency gets established, then all the other private insurers will unload their low-paying customers onto the government agency, insuring only the "Cadillac" customers.

    Another way: All but one or two insurers will drop out of Obamacre. The remaining insurers will then go to Congress and say "we can't make ends meet on what we're getting now so we either have to jack up our premiums or else you, the government, have to give us a huge subsidy." That insurer will get a massive subsidy from the government (which we will all be taxed to pay for) essentially making them the de facto government provider while technically remaining "private."

    And that, of course, was the intention all along. They couldn't sell single-payer in 2009 but once they established the expectation that health care is a "Right", they have paved the road and now they just need to let the rules of economics take over until the people are clamoring for the government to 'DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    The purpose of Obamacare has ALWAYS been to destroy the health insurance market so that the people will clamor for socialized medicine, so that they will control our precious bodily fluids.
    This. But I keep trying to tell people but no one will listen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCO View Post
    HRC will try to abolish it by replacing it with a one-payer system...the .gov. That is what most of the liberals wanted in the first place and none I have talked to ever wanted the ACA to be too successful.
    If (big IF) Trump wins he'll do the exact same thing.

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