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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    I'm not and never have been much of a sports fan, although I do occasionally enjoy watching football.

    But WRT Kapernick, seems to me he's shown every potential employer that he's going to be a colossal PITA for anyone he works for. Unless he is the Best QB In The History of the World (and it seems he's not) why would any team owner or manager want him?

    I mean, I thought Peyton Manning was a pretty good QB, but in addition to that he was, by all accounts, a team player who took his job seriously but who understood that his job is to throw a football, period.

    No matter how good Kapernick is or could be, if he causes problems that his managers have to deal with constantly, if he brings negative publicity to the organization and if he creates extra work for the back office, I think at some point they'd be stupid not to do a cost/benefit analysis and ask themselves "is this guy SO GOOD that he's worth all the trouble and all the extra work he's causing?" And clearly the answer is "no" because nobody wants to deal with him, and I can't blame them.

    He's basically the Charlie Sheen of football.
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    It's obvious that no one at Roger Goodell's meeting yesterday has balls. Pitiful.
    This sums it up for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    It's obvious that no one at Roger Goodell's meeting yesterday has balls. Pitiful.
    This sums it up for me.

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    Heard a recap on KOA this morning... Sounds like they are more worried about offending their players than the fans. I hope that message is being received loud and clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Heard a recap on KOA this morning... Sounds like they are more worried about offending their players than the fans. I hope that message is being received loud and clear.
    Good, hopefully in a couple of years the NFL will cease to exist and the ignorant ingrates will have to find real jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    Good, hopefully in a couple of years the NFL will cease to exist and the ignorant ingrates will have to find real jobs.
    ...and an avenue from the 'hood to making it big based on your athletic ability will be gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    Good, hopefully in a couple of years the NFL will cease to exist and the ignorant ingrates will have to find real jobs.
    "A couple of years?" That's wildly optimistic. Football may decline in popularity but there are so many industries that have a vested interest in football, and so many people watching, that it's going to take a long time for the NFL to "cease to exist." I doubt it will happen in our lifetimes.

    Also, in order for football to be replaced as a spectator sport, something else would have to take its place.

    Now, having said that, I did read something interesting a few years ago that pointed out that football was headed for an inevitable decline and ultimate demise, but it had nothing to do with protests or kneeling or whatever.

    It had to do with the fact that pro football sits on top of a "pyramid" of athletes and is absolutely dependent on the lower portions of that pyramid to keep sending them fresh meat.

    It then went on to say that junior high and high schools - the "base" of the pyramid, the lowest level at which full-contact football is played - are starting to reconsider their football programs in light of all the concerns about head injuries. If parents stop putting their kids into football for fear of long-term negative effects of head injuries, then pretty soon, colleges will have a smaller pool of athletes to recruit from for THEIR programs (and some colleges are also reconsidering the wisdom of spending so much money on football when the negative effects of head injuries are becoming more and more apparent.)

    The bottom line of the article was that no high school football means no college football, and no college football means no pro football, no NFL.

    Now obviously the article was trying to make a point so they undoubtedly exaggerated the rate of this phenomenon, but it's not out of the question to think that as more becomes known about the life-long effects of football injuries, the more high schools may be reluctant to offer full-contact football programs for fear of lawsuits.

    A smaller pool of people from which colleges can draw football players not only means fewer players, it likely means less talented ones (again, since the overall pool is smaller the number of talented players will also shrink.) Less talent means less interesting games. Less interesting games means fewer people watch them, and that costs the colleges money. Throw in a few lawsuits from players who get injured while playing and it's not unforeseeable that the whole house of cards collapses.

    Likely? Maybe not. But it's an interesting thought, nonetheless. I know if I had a high school age son, I'd think long and hard before allowing him to play football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    "A couple of years?" That's wildly optimistic. /snip.
    Yes I know.

    I didn't know about the rest of the things you talked about, thank you for providing them.

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    There's also the gambling side of the NFL and the governments that profit from gambling revenue.

    I think it's a valid point about parents holding their kids back from playing football.
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    My wife and I are hypocrites, because we like to watch football, but there no way in hell that our son (now age 11) is playing contact football.

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