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    Just saw this today:

    Papa John's CEO not happy with NFL leadership


    In a conference call regarding the company’s disappointing third quarter earnings, Papa John’s CEO John Schnatter blamed company struggles on the NFL’s lingering anthem controversy. And he blamed the NFL’s lingering anthem controversy on NFL leadership.

    “Good or bad, leadership starts at the top and this is an example of poor leadership,” Schnatter said in prepared remarks, via Chris Otts of WDRB.com. “This should have been nipped in the bud a year and a half ago.”
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    In MLB, even foreign national players stood up for national anthem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    I’m sorry, but that is just loser talk. “I can’t sell my shitty pizza because fans hate the NFL.”
    Suck it up, buttercup. Pizza Hut, Dominos, Papa Murphy, and a thousand mom and pops can sell pizza without complaining. Admittedly, they ALL have a much better product than your crap, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbyfairbanks View Post
    Except for that one Catcher that just got arrested on a gun charge
    Dumb do what dumb does. At least try to find other way to protest instead of copying nfl. Or at least obey the law before protesting (copying).

    ODarvish stood up during national anthem even when dumbass Cuban racist made racist gesture on a national TV.

    BTW Darvish will be pitching today for Dodgers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    I’m sorry, but that is just loser talk. “I can’t sell my shitty pizza because fans hate the NFL.”
    Suck it up, buttercup. Pizza Hut, Dominos, Papa Murphy, and a thousand mom and pops can sell pizza without complaining. Admittedly, they ALL have a much better product than your crap, though.
    I'm guessing Papa John's spends a lot of coin to advertise during an NFL televised game. They see a decline of pizzas going out the door during venues they sink a lot of money in, bottom line. Too bad it's not because of American values and principles being crapped on.

    It's great to watch this whole thing dismantle itself, there will be more sponsors and advertisers bowing out because of their projected earnings are in the tank. Empty seats = less beer, right?

    It's amazing to me that owners and management are blind to what is happening!! They need to do something fast, this year is going to be very hard to recover from (and I couldn't care less). In the mean time, screw the NFL and their sponsors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    I’m sorry, but that is just loser talk. “I can’t sell my shitty pizza because fans hate the NFL.”
    Suck it up, buttercup. Pizza Hut, Dominos, Papa Murphy, and a thousand mom and pops can sell pizza without complaining. Admittedly, they ALL have a much better product than your crap, though.
    Yeah, but those other folks don't have sponsorships with the NFL, MLB, and NHL. This is an advertiser that's not getting what they negotiated in their sponsorship deal. I bet you'd also be pissed if you didn't get what you've payed for.

    ETA: And they're right. The rule book listed player expectations with penalties and they didn't enforce it. This is completely in the NFL league management's lap.
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    I cannot agree even a little. “Papa” is getting exactly what he paid for: airtime during a game. There is no way his contract has some sort of negotiated “behavior of the NFL” clause in it. I’d also be surprised if there were some sort of “declining ratings” clause.

    If you are dumb enough to expect a league of athletes to somehow behave and not manage to otherwise alienate sections of the fanbase, you get exactly what you deserve. That goes double if it is the child abusers, wife beaters, drug abusers, and assault & battery crew that is the NFL & NBA. How can you seriously think that is what you are getting when you sign on with the league that has been OK with this for generations?

    The NFL is OK with letting Ray Lewis and Michael Vick back in, but hey guys - clean it up and follow the rules: pizza guy wants a clean image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    I’m sorry, but that is just loser talk. “I can’t sell my shitty pizza because fans hate the NFL.”
    Suck it up, buttercup. Pizza Hut, Dominos, Papa Murphy, and a thousand mom and pops can sell pizza without complaining. Admittedly, they ALL have a much better product than your crap, though.
    Subjective much? I'll take Papa John's over Pizza hut and Dominoes any day, Papa Murphy's is a different comparison all together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    Subjective much? I'll take Papa John's over Pizza hut and Dominoes any day, Papa Murphy's is a different comparison all together.
    You can have my slices for life, friend.

    I’ll be the first to admit I think their pizza is absolutely disgusting. I haven’t had it since HS and the sight makes me ill. The others are more or less serviceable. Additionally, his commercials are terrible, and I love commercials. That’s subjective.

    Objectively - I don’t feel bad for anyone that partners with the NFL (or the other sports leagues - or various entertainment venues) and then doesn’t like the outcome. Athletes, musicians, and actors behave badly. It is what they do. If you have an edgy product, it might work for you. You want a clean image and sign on with that? I’m glad because it makes me laugh when I see articles like the one cited above. Even better that it happens to a company I dislike, personally.
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