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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    But there may have been a police car just a few blocks away and based on your description they may have been able to make a stop and recover a weapon. All just possibilities and no way of knowing whether it could have happened unless you make the call.
    This. It DID no good because you ended up not calling anyone VS it MAYBE not doing any good. Maybe the cops get the guy, maybe not. But this world would be better without people like this (potential murderers) on the street. For Pete's sale, it happened in front of your house! Think of that before choosing not to call.
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    Call the police and tell them the story.. If a body has been found anywhere any bit of information for them to go on helps. There may be others nearby with security cameras that may be able to connect vehicles to the crime and so one as well as help them develop a time frame.

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    You did what you felt right at the time.

    IMO shining a flashlight only give a specific target for them, if so inclined.

    911, push spouse on floor (if she / he's groggy) stay away from windows, HD choice in hand. What order one picks is up to them.

    Everything else. Doors locked, outside lights on, those should be daily routine items.

    UNLESS they breach the perimeter (enter house) they're not a confirmed threat to you. BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.
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    My 2 cents, I would never confront any one that is not trying to get in to my house. Im with Bob I would not have called the police either, never invite the man in to your life ever. If he called the cops and they pulled the car over than you are labled a rat by some peices of shit that knows where you live and can come back and fuck with you.
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    Be careful out there - next time it might #BLM looking for their free shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    What did the 911 dispatcher say when you told them about this when you spoke to them at 0131 AM?

    Please tell me your first thought wasn't to grab a gun and go outside to confront a bunch of total strangers.
    ^^ THIS ^^ is the right answer for many reasons. But allow me to wax poetic for just a minute..

    In the scenario you described, going to your door/outside, with a handgun, to confront an unknown number of potential neerdowells. What exactly were you going to do with the (hand)gun (yeah, you said keep it inside while you made a really good target of yourself)? I am asking out of pure curiosity and not trying to demean.

    So lets break this down.

    Did you know, before you went to potentially confront them, that these neerdowells:

    • had the ABILITY to kill or do serious bodily injury to yourself or another?
    • that someone was in JEOPARDY of being killed or being seriously harmed by said neerdowells?
    • that these neerdowells had the IMMEDIATE OPPORTUNITY, and power, to kill or seriously harm someone


    Based on your quick write-up, my thinking is NO to all three. Granted I wasn't there and I am only going by your quick words. Even if you could have said YES to all three of those, could you CLEARLY ARTICULATE your justifications under intense and immediate pressure? Don't know you, but I am going to guess probably not.

    So if those are the case, why would you bring a gun and escalate the situation? Granted, you have the right to. But, if things would have escalated into you exchanging gun fire - your inability to answer a resounding and clear YES to the above three points would probably mean a bad time for you. If you were going to keep it, and you, inside - then why would your make yourself a really easy target? I am not a lawyer, and again not trying to cause issue, just someone who is curious and trying to figure out the thought process behind this.

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    Now with that out of the way. Lets get to the choice of weaponry. You saw multiple neerdowells, in vehicles, already in a stable and fortified position - whose tensions were clearly escalated. And you brought a handgun? An HD at that (whether or Sig P238HD or a Hi-Standard HD .22 is unclear? These seems illogical and really really dumb to me. Granted I am Monday-morning quarterbacking here. But, the situation you described calls for a rifle, a semi-automatic one, with many many rounds at your disposal. Multiple potential assailants attacking from fortified positions... and you brought a pistol?

    Maybe that is all you have -- but if that is the case, it is EVEN MORE REASON why you should have stayed in your room, called 911 and been a really good witness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beast556 View Post
    My 2 cents, I would never confront any one that is not trying to get in to my house. Im with Bob I would not have called the police either, never invite the man in to your life ever. If he called the cops and they pulled the car over than you are labled a rat by some peices of shit that knows where you live and can come back and fuck with you.
    You can still call 911 and wish to remain anonymous. People do it all the time. That keeps the police out of your hair and bad guys off of the street.
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    Did the neighbor who fired the shot remember to pick up his brass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Did the neighbor who fired the shot remember to pick up his brass?
    If you're talking about fportmen45's story, he said it was a BB gun -- no brass to pick up.

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