Buying a diesel so questions on what to do

[Gunner]

I'm looking at getting a diesel. I dont pull alot but every now and again I'll have a pretty decent load in the bed like 250 8ft 2x4s etc. Stuff lile that. It's not often but happens.

I'm looking a few rams. I'm in a ford now but I really love rams and liked my 06 1500.

I found a 2012 ram cummins st crew cab with a little less than 90k. Really clean some dents on the passenger side but nice pickup and Sexy as he'll.

I also found a new 2016 1500 ecodiesel quad cab brand new less than 30 miles. It's a tradesman so no bells and whistles but thats okay.

They are both pretty much the same price maybe $1000 difference

Now my thing is I really like the 2012 however, the 2016 has the 5yr 100k mile warranty. I know they are both kinda different animals but is ot worth it to get the warranty or got with a cummins.

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[DFBrews]

2016 has more emissions than the 2012 the 12 depending on what part of the year it was made should only have a DPF while the 16 will have SCR and the DPF an extra system to go wrong.

I would take a Cummins over the ford motor any day. 6.4 liters will work a lot less harder than thee 3 liter for the same load. If you ever need the extra towing capacity you wil have it


Aftermarket parts and service are much more available



( I play a diesel mechanic on tv)

[Gunner]

2016 has more emissions than the 2012 the 12 depending on what part of the year it was made should only have a DPF while the 16 will have SCR and the DPF an extra system to go wrong.

I would take a Cummins over the ford motor any day. 6.4 liters will work a lot less harder than thee 3 liter for the same load. If you ever need the extra towing capacity you wil have it


Aftermarket parts and service are much more available



( I play a diesel mechanic on tv)

I was hoping you would chime in. I'm not even considering ford.

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[DFBrews]

I was hoping you would chime in. I'm not even considering ford.

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ahhh the morning brings more clarity. Both are dodge got it.

I would be even More hesitant to get the eco diesel it's new product and they all have growing pains.

A guy at the shop bought a 15 1500 with the hemi and it pulls his camper over the pass just fine. Fuel mileage is junk though.



Mtn rider is correct with the chassis getting some wear on it at that mileage.

[Gunner]

ahhh the morning brings more clarity. Both are dodge got it.

I would be even More hesitant to get the eco diesel it's new product and they all have growing pains.

A guy at the shop bought a 15 1500 with the hemi and it pulls his camper over the pass just fine. Fuel mileage is junk though.



Mtn rider is correct with the chassis getting some wear on it at that mileage.

I'm not worried about problem with the ecodiesel because of the warranty and knowing me I'll have something else by then.

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[Grant H.]

For the use case you're describing, go with a gasser 2500. Diesels still carry a premium on them around here. I was looking at a '15 Chevy 2500 4x4 Long bed crew cab with the 6.0 gas, and it was going to be mid 20's with 25-35K miles on it. The same truck with the Dmax? Around $40k. We've bought a few of them for the company.

I know you said you're looking at getting a diesel, but unless you tow good size trailers frequently, you don't need it.

I'm sort of the poster child for having a diesel I don't really need, but mine is also a 525/1019 HP/TQ toy to me. When I am dragging trailers anymore, it is usually for work, so my 3500 DRW Duramax gets that task.

The cost of diesel maintenance is higher, the cost of fuel (nowadays) is higher, and especially with the new emissions systems, you need to work the trucks or you're going to be going back to the dealer to get the EGR and other emissions systems cleaned out.

The couple of guys that I know that have the ecodiesel in the 1500's have had issues. I will ask them what issues they have had and post it back here for you, but they have had their trucks to the dealers a couple times.

Now, all that said, if you want a diesel in a Dodge, go with the Cummins. It's worth it. You can then look at deleting it (if you can figure a way around emissions), and then you will have much better economy. My Cummins (toy from above) when I am just cruising on the highway (usually headed to OK to visit my wifes family) gets 23-26MPG (hand calculated) depending on how fast I decide the trip is being made. If I just stick the truck in 6th and leave it at the speed limit, it routinely pulls 26MPG and I make it 2/3 of the way or better there on a single tank.

[Lars]

Keep in mind though that with a diesel comes more expensive maintenance. If it goes to the shop for anything, it starts at a grand as a general rule of thumb.

[Gunner]

I should also say I have to pull a trailer loaded with tile and stone. Once again this isnt an everyday case

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[Lars]

I have an 07' 2500 Cummins and I love it. I don't pull loads all the time but when I do, it's a loaded up horse trailer headed over the passes to the other side of the hills. It's hard to beat running Eisenhower and Vail at 70 mph with a fully loaded trailer. I have been told that if you delete the EGR and DPF that they are absolute beasts and get amazing fuel mileage, I wouldn't know personally .

[mtnrider]

If you don't pull a lot I would do the 2016 ecodiesel. The 2012 2500 with 90K is starting to get in to the maintenance period of it's life. Some go longer but your right on the edge of several things the Rams could have issues with. Injectors, ball joints, transmission issues depending how it was driven and maintained.

Also how do you intend to use it? Daily driver? Weekend truck? If daily I would stay away from a 2500 gasser (rams anyway) I had one and hated it. Under powered, gas guzzler, limited range. Mine was a 2013 Ram 2500 gas and I could barely get 300 miles out of a tank of gas and that was driving to squeeze every mile I could out of it (unloaded, no towing) Drove me crazy stopping for gas every couple days.

While everyone claims great mpg with diesels, the truth is (with the new ones) you are only going to see that with long highway miles. If you are commuting around town expect to be in the 13-15 mpg range if you baby it.

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