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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverGP View Post
    You really think thats what your neighborhood would look like without an HOA?

    No HOA here, and doesn't look like a shithole. And property values are climbing crazy here too... 3 houses on my block have sold for over list price the day they went onto the market.

    The current outlook is within 18-24 months a steep correction is predicted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFBrews View Post
    The current outlook is within 18-24 months a steep correction is predicted.
    I have no doubt a correction is coming, but having an HOA or not isn't going to be the deciding factor in the correction. I also don't think the correction here in the denver area is going to be very extreme. There will still be enough demand that it'll reduce the impact of the correction.

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    Correction definitely coming. Denver may not be affected very hard, IF the rest of the country can hold itself together for a while. In 10 months, we'll break the record for time between recessions in the US.

    No HOA here, and most properties look pretty good. Nosey neighbors can call code enforcement just as easily as they can call an HOA. Almost every single rural property I've ever seen looks like the picture above though, including my own.

    I submit that most city properties are just not large enough to look terrible. I bet if a study was done, there'd be a pretty strong correlation showing that as acreage goes up, the capacity to be filled with garbage goes up.
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    I survived Aurora and lived in Parker for two years. Nice middle class houses. Neighbor next to me sold to a sporty every other weekend DV couple. Parker PD out often. Multiple cars on blocks in the side yard next to my property. He moved into an RV parked in front of the house—not making this up.

    Got transferred after 9/11 and had to sell to move in two months. Next to that.

    I can see both sides.

    My dream house doesn’t have an HOA. Or neighbors I can see or hear. And our HOA is no good for neighbor conflict issues. They only enforce the regs for their benefit. Like I said and Irving touched on, the law has more bit in that space than HOAs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post

    HR isn't that bad as long as you don't intentionally test the rules. There are many violations, some on my own block, that have gone unnoticed. Other odd things do get noticed but are minor (leaving the trash cans out too long).
    What's the HOA dues in Highlands ranch nowadays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    . I bet if a study was done, there'd be a pretty strong correlation showing that as acreage goes up, the capacity to be filled with garbage goes up.

    Very true
    Here it's a cross section of stick built, manufactured and single wides. Keeping in mind the area has seen growth in the last 5 years with those old single wides at one time being way off the grid. Shit piled up alongside and sometimes the back part of their acreage, yet no one cares. From the few we've met, i gather a serious issue is self correcting. OR they put large junipers around the place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    HR isn't that bad as long as you don't intentionally test the rules. There are many violations, some on my own block, that have gone unnoticed.
    That's actually a bigger problem because all it takes is one HOA board member who's kid gets into a conflict with your kid or who is jealous that your wife is prettier than his or otherwise gets a bug up his ass and all of the sudden the "unnoticed violations" blow up in your face. "Selective enforcement" is a form of tyranny as it weaponizes the law at the enforcer's whims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    "Selective enforcement" is a form of tyranny as it weaponizes the law at the enforcer's whims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulf202 View Post
    What's the HOA dues in Highlands ranch nowadays?
    $165 a quarter currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    $165 a quarter currently.
    $148/quarter for us. We have no special assessments, some others do.

    That also gets access to the rec centers at no cost. My oldest is there now working on his swimming before school starts. We used to go the gym several times a week before I had stuff in my basement. Much cheaper than a club.

    I think they use some of that to maintain the trails and open space too, but I'm not sure how that works.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    That's actually a bigger problem because all it takes is one HOA board member who's kid gets into a conflict with your kid or who is jealous that your wife is prettier than his or otherwise gets a bug up his ass and all of the sudden the "unnoticed violations" blow up in your face. "Selective enforcement" is a form of tyranny as it weaponizes the law at the enforcer's whims.
    The same can happen with the sheriff/LE, a county commissioner, or some other wannabe dictator at any level of gov. And we all know LE can't enforce all the laws, all the time. Kind of like the code inspectors... Give them enough time and they can find violations all day long.

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