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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_L View Post
    One protestor just said "Blood will be shed. There will be casualties on both sides because people need to die to make changes.".

    Yikes.
    "Sure, sure" I muttered, as I carried box two filled with 2200 projectiles into the basement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Circuits View Post
    and of course, outright sedition should always be amongst the conducts we abhor and detest and decry and fulminously repudiate.
    Yeah, because the government will always be a legitimate and humble servant of the people, right? I mean sedition was cute & stuff back in 1776 but that's too outdated for modern America, which is beyond such concerns.

    ETA: I am not supporting the crying libs' empty threats to start killing people, I am saying that it's ridiculous to say that sedition is always and in every case abhorrent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_L View Post
    One protestor just said "Blood will be shed. There will be casualties on both sides because people need to die to make changes.".

    Yikes.
    I joined Twitter last night to experience the melt down first hand. I'm about to express my feelings to the protester by Tweeting a link to this song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCLxJd1d84s

    How do you think that will be received?

    EDIT: You only have to listen to the first 40 seconds of the song to get the message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumline View Post
    Yeah, because the government will always be a legitimate and humble servant of the people, right? I mean sedition was cute & stuff back in 1776 but that's too outdated for modern America, which is beyond such concerns.

    ETA: I am not supporting the crying libs' empty threats to start killing people, I am saying that it's ridiculous to say that sedition is always and in every case abhorrent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrey View Post
    Holy crap, HE WON!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erni View Post
    "Sure, sure" I muttered, as I carried box two filled with 2200 projectiles into the basement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_L View Post
    One protestor just said "Blood will be shed. There will be casualties on both sides because people need to die to make changes.".

    Yikes.

    FNC mic'd up a protester in NY live on Megyn Kelly's show that agreed to a "civil" discussion.

    Reporter, "Why are you protesting?"
    Protester, "Because Donald Trump doesn't represent me or my group."
    Protester, "And someone should grab Trump right in the p****y."

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    haha, watching the SJW crying vids on youtube.

    Cue REM mad World music here at 8:23 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXUaQe3ziEY

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOLON LABE View Post
    There are a great many things that our collective grand and
    great grand parents would not be shocked by, and would outright support. That should not be the bar we set for current political policies.

    Let's not forget we got where we are today, both good and the bad, politically in many ways BECAUSE of our predecessors.


    Banning liberal ideologies and condemning them to be political prisoners and "enemies of the state" does not seem to me to be anything near the values that this country was founded on, nor the values that countless people have fought and died to preserve. Are many liberal policies and ideals potentially dangerous? Sure. But that's why we vote the bastards out and showcase why our ideals and policies are superior in every way, not round people up and imprison them because we disagree with each other.

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    The problem with America, which led to where are as a nation today, is the idea that every idea is somehow precious and needs to be heard. Liberalism (Marxism) is a snake which needs its head cut off, a cancer which needs to be eradicated. McCarthy understood this and is now villified for being right.

    Not just political prisoners, but actual enemies of not only the state but of the people who they would seek to corrupt with promises of free shit, the continued destruction of the family and moral fiber of this nation, etc. Advocates of things which are great moral evils (abortion, lack of self-defense, communist ideals, etc.).

    It was the ww2 generation which really set the train of ruination down the tracks. They were the greatest generation in many ways, and the worst generation in others. Whether they stormed the beaches at Normandy or nearly died at Tarawa, they came back and corporately either ran roughshod over the moral fiber of the country or raised a generation which would engage in a rampant libertine attitude. Bernie Sanders didn't happen in a vacuum.

    Again, I say, our great grandparents would not find my list shocking. Neither would the founding fathers.


    Let's look at the list again:
    * Repeal and shitcan NAFTA -- stop the subsidies to the corn farmers for ruining my friggin gasoline; make them actually farm again, instead of planting crops destined to fail and getting paid more for failure; institute a guest worker program for Mexicans and whomever else wants to pick strawberries. Commie Cesar Chavez got the Bracero program nixed and it contributed to the present immigration problems, in conjunction with NAFTA ruining Mexican farming.
    * Obamacare -- overturn; break up the insurance scam which rigs prices so high
    * A hard and fast federal stance guaranteeing NO violation of the 2nd amendment in any form (repeal of NFA, 1968, tell states who wish to violate this to stuff it)
    * Overthrow of Roe v Wade and guarantee a personhood amendment in Constitution to protect the unborn in ALL cases
    * increase tariffs, decrease taxation of workers
    * Dissolution of the Dept of Education with a return to sensible educational programs at the state and local level
    * Banning liberal programs and anyone who touts them is immediately imprisoned as an enemy of the state
    * Crush the unions and only let them reconvene if they engage in just, collective bargaining, safety, training, etc. NO political activity and no retribution for dissenting members.
    * Overthrow the Johnson Amendment
    * Overthrow the recognition of marriage as anything other than a union between one man and one woman (and really, the state shouldn't be involved in this function anyway)
    * Enforce on-the-books sodomy laws
    * Federally provided rifles, ammo, and training a la Switzerland; funds allocated to states to stand up their militias -- reduce standing military to a force able to conduct first strike expeditionary operations w/ enough time to train people up for a draft.
    1) Would it be a bad thing to encourage productive farming which doesn't see a large amount of it going to a disastrous EPA-led campaign to produce less effective fuel? No
    2) Would it be a bad thing to undue to unconstitutional intrusion of the federal .gov into forcing people to buy a product at great expense and which leads to a bloating of prices? No.
    3) Would it be a bad thing to guarantee the 2nd Amendment with no ridiculous laws which make a constitutionally guaranteed right in all its substance and ancillary aspects? No.
    4) Would it be a bad thing to recognize the reality of human dignity and the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness from conception so as to guarantee a) that we arent murdering our own children and b) that we restore the consequences of decisions? No.
    5) Would it be a bad thing to encourage domestic manufacturing and decrease the federal hand into the local pocket of the working man? No.
    6) Would it be a bad thing to allow states to return to a curriculum which is sensible and teaches/encourages fundamentals without all the cultural marxist bloating? No.
    7) Would it be a bad thing to treat enemies of the future of America at every level (economic, moral, etc.) as what they are, such that we stop seeing dumb crap like Boulder High school students walking out of class because their little feelings and fantasy world got hurt? Such that people LIKE Margaret Sanger would have no room to spread their cancerous crap, Saul Alinsky to be put in jail where he belonged, and all the other commie agitators too? No.
    8) Would it be a bad thing to disallow the "schools of communism"(Lenin) to foment their class warfare BS and instead simply serve as a backstop to the potential for worker abuse? No.
    9) Would it be a bad thing to stop dangling a tax-free status over the Church in a squelching of the natural reality of the intention of the Church and of the fact that the separation of Church and State as we see today is in fact 180* from the intention of the founding fathers? No.
    10) Would it be a bad thing to return as a nation to something which is so glaringly obvious from natural law and which, frankly, the .gov should only have enforcement insofar as ensuring the protection of the oldest social norm in history? No. And I'd go further in stating that the .gov should not be involved in this anyway at any other level. No tax breaks for the married at the expense of the single, etc. The only reason the .gov is involved goes back to the days of segregation and eugenics in this country.
    11) Would it be a bad thing to stop the ridiculous displays of homosexual behavior such as we see in these "gay pride" parades, etc.? No. It's impossible to deal with what might occur between two people out of the public eye, but in the public eye that shit should be squashed.
    12) Would it be a bad thing to have the federal government do its job in a manner which encourages subsidiarity and yet also the national defense which allows defense at all levels from local to federal? No.

    It's an amazing amount of hubris to think that we can ignore thousands of years of human history which proves these basic principles one way or another. Yeah, I agree that not all of our great grandparents' ideas were good. But I'm not talking about their novelties or things like Racism (true racism, not the hurt feelings report of today), I'm talking about the things they inherited which are obviously good. GK Chesterton wrote that, "Tradition is the democracy of the dead." My parents' generation totally shirked tradition and its been a fast ride down this slippery slope since then. Their parents generation (ww2) didn't rip them back from the edge when they saw them start down the road to where we are now. Their grandparents' generation became comfortable with things. We have to stop being comfortable with the destruction of not only our nation, but ourselves.

    I purposely left out anything which is found only in Catholicism, lest anyone accuse my list of being based on that. Those things take faith. What I outlined is simply an adherence to principles found in the natural law, something from which no man escapes and all good societies have understood. Even the founding fathers understood and lived by these ideas. Every generation which gave an inch to the diabolical ideas of a vocal few opened a mile on the road to hell for their children.

    I say again, the cultural Marxist rot is DEEP. When we recoil at the idea of some faggot wearing little more than glitter prancing down the street being arrested and locked up, some commie agitator being locked up, some mentally ill person deciding they're a woman and anyone saying otherwise, some child being born despite what consequence it may bring to someone who was living only in the moment (rather than the horror we should feel at abortion), etc., we know we are affected by it, even if that initial reaction is momentary and we quickly reason why X thing is in fact wrong and must be stamped out.

    But I shouldn't be surprised. At the end of the day, it's hard to tell another person or a group of people they will not destroy society when we have lost the adherence to the reality of truth. Relativism is our principle now, socially. Anything less would require us to actually give a hoot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    Nothing I said would shock our great grandparents (or great great grandparents if you're around 18) or be seen as unAmerican by their generation. The cultural Marxist rot is deep, friends.
    "Crushing" unions and imprisoning people for holding liberal beliefs - yeah, that's how you restore the Constitution.
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