Garden of the Gods shooter charged with "carrying a large capacity magazine"

[CS1983]

...and this is where plastic magazine mold dates will get you in trouble. One wonders what would happen with a metal magazine having a plastic follower with a date after 2013...

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I like to # my mags with a soldering iron, and the mold date always seemed like a convenient location. Is this against the law?

[Kraven251]

Pretty sure with the current wording on that if you bought it in another state, etc if you came into possession of this after the date and you weren't in the state of CO or even yet it was warranty replacement part, ...the list goes on and on, which is why so many Sheriffs said it was shit and unenforceable.

[.455_Hunter]

I can name several gun shops in Denver Metro who have dispensed with even disassembling the mags, and have factory sealed Magpuls on the rack under a sign "Parts Kits". Other shops are just selling the mags straight over the counter, especially to known customers.

[newracer]

It's illegal, prima facie, to possess a large (>15) capacity magazine in Colorado since 1 July 2013. Defense is proving possession before that date.

First time I've seen it actually charged, so far, but doesn't bode well for the future.

Our bulwark so far has been that about 95% of law enforcement agencies have pledged they will not enforce it, due to vagueness and unprovability, but apparently that's changing.

The guy that threatened to shoot up the community college up here was originally charged but it was dropped when the federal charges were brought against him.

[Circuits]

I guess the way I'd phrase it is thus:

Possession of a large capacity mag (>15 rounds) is grounds for an inquiry - was the mag legally possessed before 1 July 2013? Regardless of where the burden of proof lies, it is a reasonable locus of suspicion, now, for investigation, because possession after that date constitutes a crime.

A prosecutor, as the law is currently written and interpreted, would have to end up proving that those mags were NOT in the defendant's lawful possession before 7/1/2013 to achieve a conviction, but any prosecutorial efforts expended in that endeavor would not be deemed frivolous or misguided before the fact.

Things seems to be turning in CO, where "you might beat the rap, but not the ride", and we Coloradoans have been very cavalier about that possibility before now.

[.455_Hunter]

And? You can find it online too....Still, the site does not condone anyone breaking the law.

Whoa there trooper- I was simply reporting a fact about how many shops are openly and now flagrantly disregarding the law- nothing more, nothing less.

[KAPA]

One of Trump's main firearms issues during the campaign was to eliminate restrictions on magazine capacity. It is actually still listed on his website. Curious if his administration will be able to help out our bogus law on this.

[MarkCO]

It's illegal, prima facie, to possess a large (>15) capacity magazine in Colorado since 1 July 2013. Defense is proving possession before that date.

First time I've seen it actually charged, so far, but doesn't bode well for the future.

Our bulwark so far has been that about 95% of law enforcement agencies have pledged they will not enforce it, due to vagueness and unprovability, but apparently that's changing.

Onus is on the Prosecution to prove the law was broken.

As of early spring, there had been 9 others charged with possession of an illegal magazine, 8 have had that charge dismissed and 1 case was still pending, at least as of early spring.

Most the Sheriffs have said they will not pursue charges related to the law, but they are a small percentage of the LEAs in the state.

Nothing has changed at all. Still a boggus law, still on the books. But lets at least be accurate about it.

[spqrzilla]

I can name several gun shops in Denver Metro who have dispensed with even disassembling the mags, and have factory sealed Magpuls on the rack under a sign "Parts Kits". Other shops are just selling the mags straight over the counter, especially to known customers.

I know. And if anyone buys those with a credit card, they are a moron.

And by the way, someone implied that destroying the mold date on a plastic body magazine would be sufficient. Nope, that a magazine has a destroyed mold date would in fact be admissible evidence that it was an illegally possessed magazine.

[Rucker61]

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I know. And if anyone buys those with a credit card, they are a moron.

And by the way, someone implied that destroying the mold date on a plastic body magazine would be sufficient. Nope, that a magazine has a destroyed mold date would in fact be admissible evidence that it was an illegally possessed magazine.

How would the prosecution prove that the magazine was made and purchased after July 1, 2013 with no date?
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