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    Quote Originally Posted by Delfuego View Post
    You guys really think the gov't gets anything done quickly?
    I will have grown a ZZ Top beard, Fu Manchu nails and my screen-name will be Methuselah before any of those clowns in Washington get any work done.
    Eh, call me an optimist...
    Valid point. I'm getting started on two more cans at the end of the week. I can't see this becoming a reality by the time I get the go ahead.
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    Bill has been reintroduced as of 1/9/2017

    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2017...ion-act-hr-367

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    I will happily eat crow if this passes. Finger crossed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delfuego View Post
    I will happily eat crow if this passes. Finger crossed.
    I would too!
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    Here's a blurb by SilencerCo on the reintro of the HPA:


    HPA REINTRODUCED TO THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    Monday was a momentous occasion for Second Amendment supporters across the country: the Hearing Protection Act was reintroduced to the 115th Congress as H.R. 367. Originally introduced by Rep. Matt Salmon (AZ-05) in 2015, this historic piece of legislation is now sponsored by Rep. Jeff Duncan (SC-03) and Rep. John Carter (TX-31), and a long list of co-sponsors. Along with H.R. 367, a companion bill (S.59) has been introduced by Senator Mike Crapo (ID) to the Senate.

    The HPA seeks to remove suppressors from the NFA and instead have their purchase and transfer treated the same as a long gun - no more $200 tax or extensive waiting period - customers will now undergo an instantaneous NICS background check. Also included in the bill language is a provision to refund the $200 transfer tax to applicants who purchased a suppressor after October 22, 2015 - the original date of introduction.

    SilencerCo, along with many like-minded members of Congress, believes that citizens should not be taxed for trying to protect their hearing while exercising their Second Amendment rights. Even though the House, Senate, and Presidency will be controlled by sympathetic advocates for the Second Amendment, bills take time to become law. Although we are optimistic about the Hearing Protection Act, it will take time. Between now and the passage of this bill, we encourage our customers to continue to support the industry and to take advantage of the $200 tax refund provision.
    What can you do to help?

    Go to fightthenoise.org and take action to write your Representative and Senators and tell them you support the Hearing Protection Act.



    By tomorrow I'll be at 6 months waiting.... The government doesn't need to regulate suppressors. The long wait time for approval is an utterly shameful display of government arrogance and inefficiency. The background check also is excessive but that could go away in time if the trend of the expansion of 2A rights continues.

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    I've sent emails to both Senators and my Representative. I didn't see any of their names on the list. Hopefully they'll respond favorably. Enzi and Barrasso had cosponsored the previous HPA, and Liz Cheney is new so I'm not sure where she stands on suppressors. She did just cosponsor the concealed carry reciprocity bill.

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    The thing to remember is the NFA was enacted to discourage ownership not facilitate it , it was never about anything other than making the process as painful and cost prohibitive as possible .

    I give the bill slim to no chance of passing , the government never lets go once they have their fingers in something .
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    But have you contacted your congressmen to voice stance on the matter? Or are you just going to sit on your pessimism and do nothing?

    The NFA was enacted by idiots who used scare tactics, and fake statistics to get it passed. The laws can be reversed. It happened with prohibition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmg8550 View Post
    But have you contacted your congressmen to voice stance on the matter? Or are you just going to sit on your pessimism and do nothing?

    The NFA was enacted by idiots who used scare tactics, and fake statistics to get it passed. The laws can be reversed. It happened with prohibition.
    Yeah, but the asshats who would do so cannot have someone else drink for them; they can have someone else use a machine gun on our families though and have no need to do it themselves -- no need for us to have solid protection and ability to fight back.
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    Done more than my fair share . But I also understand reality as well , and part of that reality is the ASA are the people that opened the ATF's eyes to how people were using trusts and brought about the changes to how they are handled now . Which in turn caused all the panic buying that jacked the wait times up again .

    If the bill passes suppressor availability is going to get worse because all the panic buyers are going to buy up all the available stock and then the manufacturers will have to catch up with demand . The other thing is the cost of quality products will only marginally change because the forms to manufacture and transfer dealer to dealer are free and the SOT costs and now the added ITAR stuff is not going to change . Yes you will get some new companies that will make low cost stuff but it will be louder and less durable than the quality stuff . The American suppressor market is what it is because for the most part a suppressor is a forever purchase and not something that is easily or cheaply repaired or upgraded .

    It's a pipe dream to think the government will deregulate the suppressor industry which is what it would take to significantly reduce the cost to the end user .

    Just look at all the company's that started building AR's when the insanity was going on , how are they doing now that the bottom has fallen out of it .

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