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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
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    Making it more difficult for citizens to protect themselves by imposing onerous regulations is a prime example of bad government. Good government assists citizens in promoting freedom and productivity. If a government cannot be good then all I ask is that it do nothing at all.
    So you are saying that the government should stay out of our lives, so we should take away laws for speed limits or drug use, as a comparison?

    Please remember this is all hypothetical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stodg73 View Post
    So you are saying that the government should stay out of our lives, so we should take away laws for speed limits or drug use, as a comparison?

    Please remember this is all hypothetical.
    I've reread my post and couldn't find where I said that the government should stay out of our lives or what laws should be taken away. Your hypothetical asked a specific question about what I would consider a draconian regulatory scheme based presumably on the notion that we as a nation would be safer with those rules. I disagree with the premise and defy you or anyone else to provide evidence that such strict regulatory oversight would produce the safety it promises. Speed limits are routinely disobeyed in throughout the nation, as are drug laws. Would you propose more laws making speeding even more illegal? How about we make possession of controlled substances super secret felonies?

    The government is in our lives because we are the government. Groups of people decide how they want to improve our society and when enough people agree on something they try to use the power of the government to impose their will on the rest of us. Some laws are necessary, but most are just intrusive and manipulative. The only real product of laws is criminals. No one needs to pass a law telling anyone that they are free to do something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    I've reread my post and couldn't find where I said that the government should stay out of our lives or what laws should be taken away. Your hypothetical asked a specific question about what I would consider a draconian regulatory scheme based presumably on the notion that we as a nation would be safer with those rules. I disagree with the premise and defy you or anyone else to provide evidence that such strict regulatory oversight would produce the safety it promises. Speed limits are routinely disobeyed in throughout the nation, as are drug laws. Would you propose more laws making speeding even more illegal? How about we make possession of controlled substances super secret felonies?

    The government is in our lives because we are the government. Groups of people decide how they want to improve our society and when enough people agree on something they try to use the power of the government to impose their will on the rest of us. Some laws are necessary, but most are just intrusive and manipulative. The only real product of laws is criminals. No one needs to pass a law telling anyone that they are free to do something.
    Well said, as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stodg73 View Post
    So you are saying that the government should stay out of our lives, so we should take away laws for speed limits or drug use, as a comparison?

    Please remember this is all hypothetical.
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilpinGuy View Post
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