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    Didn't see this anywhere sorry if it's a repost.

    http://orchidadvisors.com/atf-form-4..._hsmi=37660754

    4473 has been revised. Most interesting to me is the bit about states that have medical or recreational marijuana. Wondering what the statement says.

    • Question 11.e: Added a warning statement regarding marijuana that has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where the transferee/buyer resides.

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    There was a link to a PDF of the new form in that article: http://orchidadvisors.com/wp-content...B_Approved.pdf

    e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
    Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or
    decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.
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    Well, that answers my question then. Thank you sir. I've seen a bunch of talk about that here, that's the only change that stood out to me.
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    So with that little addition is now says possession makes you a prohibited person.

    let's say a member of your house hold uses it for legitimate pain relief so it is in the house where you the firearm owner could pass any drug test out there. But by blanket are possessing are you now illegal?
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    I have a related question; on the 4473 form, it says 10.a. and 10.b. must both be answered. If you check that you are Hispanic or Latino in 10a, what box do you check in 10b? I never noticed that before, may have always been there, just looks confusing. Is this the "George Zimmerman" box where you check that you are a white Hispanic?
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    I'm actually more annoyed that the form 4473 exists in the first place, not so much the specifics that are on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    White/Caucasian. Hispanics are Caucasian believe it or not. Race vs Ethnicity.
    So back when white Europeans discovered central America, they realized that the native people living there were just distant relatives? Every time I think I understand American history it seems to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFBrews View Post
    So with that little addition is now says possession makes you a prohibited person.
    There is no change at all. It has always been against Federal law. They just added a warning to make sure such a person really knows when they sign the form that they have in fact broken Federal law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    White/Caucasian. Hispanics are Caucasian believe it or not. Race vs Ethnicity.
    Some Hispanics identify as Black, such as some Puerto Ricans for example. Some parts of Spain have people that are very white and have red hair.

    It's a very diverse world out there...unless you happen to be white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCO View Post
    There is no change at all. It has always been against Federal law. They just added a warning to make sure such a person really knows when they sign the form that they have in fact broken Federal law.

    See foxtrots point and yours as well mark
    I know it is Definitely still illegal on the fed level and have way to much invested in many aspects of my life to use anything.
    but always took it that with the unlawful user/addicted wording a roommate smoking a bowl wouldn't bring the the black heli's calling

    I know it is a grey area and a "enthusiastic" DA could tack in some kind of charge to that effect. But have never gotten a straight answer from a lawyer.
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