So what is your take on the Alt/New Right?

[CS1983]

+1

[SG1]

that wont happen, since he joined all he does is troll us. Never posts, goes a while then posts some stuff like this, all from another state. we have had threads closed over him.

So wrong, I have posted in many other places, on many other subjects.

[SG1]

Wrong. Trump would not have won but for the Religious Right. Or what you might have once called everyday, normal, well adjusted, decent, hardworking folk.

The state has no bigger mandate than of the preservation of the family unit, and the protection of the innocent. For without strong stable families as a foundation to formate good, moral citizens we will continue to have more of the same.

Children do not learn morals from the public education system.

The government does not provide it to them.

It comes from the family unit and churches.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams

"The only foundation for a useful education in a republic is to be aid in religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty, and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments. Without religion, I believe that learning does real mischief to the morals and principles of mankind."
- Benjamin Rush

"The Christian religion, in its purity, is the basis, or rather the source of all genuine freedom in government. . . . and I am persuaded that no civil government of a republican form can exist and be durable in which the principles of that religion have not a controlling influence." - Noah Webster

" Religion and morality are the essential pillars of civil society."
- George Washington

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Benjamin Franklin

But perhaps you believe these are merely the musings of dead, old, white men and in no way could apply to such a group of advanced people as that of the United States. A people that seeks secure borders to protect us from foreigners that do us physical or economical harm, while sanctioning the wholesale slaughter of the un-born and promoting every form of deviant behavior as normal, and seek to eliminate the moral fabric of our country, the family unit.


Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi

Hey,no question with 90% of what you said, but when you waste political capital on non issues you might get a bashlash from other groups within the right.

[CS1983]

Can you clarify what you consider non-issues in Molon's post?

[SG1]

Can you clarify what you consider non-issues in Molon's post?

Stem Cells (if you do not want it funded with tax payer dollars frame it as a spending issue, you will far more support)
Early term abortions
Now the issue of gay marriage (I hate what the court did and how they steam rolled us, but now short of stack the court its a waste of political capital when we could use it to harm the left)

Also the moronic support of and for wars in the Middle East, bring in 3rd world immigrants/refugees because the of some wrapped view based on self hatred/cuckholdury is something we could all do without.

We should have, and now are going to send our poltical capital to two major things 1. Limit Immigration and 2. Federal Voter ID Laws.

1. Limiting Immigration.
We take in more then 1.7 million people a year legally, of those number we have 800,000 green card holders, of those who go on to become citizens, they vote 8-2 for Democrats. A majority are on welfare, never mind the burdens of crime, wages, cost of living, terrorism, etc.

When you change the people of a nation, you change the culture, change the culture, you can and will change politics which is down stream from it.

Why allow the enemy to bring in reinforcements? If we restore Immigration limits along the 1924 Immigration Act limits we will insure that America never becomes a one party nation like the failed states of NY or CA.

Immigration is the issue that will decide all others, if we win it, we win everything else by default.

Factor in the wall, deportations (enforcing the law along with a few CEO getting a nice perp walk) (Targeted in swing states as to win over voters and get rid of illegals who voted (13% to those arrested admit they do)) ending birthright ciztenship for illegals (no we do not need to amend the 14th Amendment) we could not only stop the current imposed demographic shift in this nation, but reverse it in record time.


2. Federal Voter ID laws, we get this, leftist will be unable to allow illegals to vote (we have their info in the DMV so they will be going for a ride real soon!) no more double or triple voting, no more 50 voters who live in a empty lot, no more bussing of voters, no more "hey we just "found" some ballots", or "1% "bump" they always "find" in races that are down to the wire.

Why waste political capital on measures that do not yield permanent results? You can restore limits on abortion, pray in school, freedom of speech from the church, and all other desires of the Christian right in a nation that is solidly right of center.

You can not do that and will never gain anything you want if the left is allowed to import millions of welfare voters (and or mint 30 million via Amnesty). They will have stacked the deck so much in their favor that anything you want to stop, repeal, gain, etc is made impossible as they have changed the demographics of the nation.

[Irving]

Can you provide sources for any of the things you are claiming? Also, in what context are you claiming that California and New York are failed states? Larger economy than most of the world equals failure?

[SG1]

Can you provide sources for any of the things you are claiming? Also, in what context are you claiming that California and New York are failed states? Larger economy than most of the world equals failure?

Sure, if anything is left unanswered feel free to ask for more data, I have mountains of it.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...lina-combined/







They vote 8-2 for Democrats.
http://cis.org/immigration-impacts-o...ects-1980-2012



Think your gun rights are safe?




Welfare usage 2016 study
http://cis.org/Cost-Welfare-Immigrant-Native-Households


13% of Illegals Admitting they voted (its so much more, but this is from self admission without fear of prison)
http://archive.is/iGZws


Their economies are large, but so is the state, the tax regulations, and countless infringements on our civil Liberties, infrastructure falling apart, schools they teach kids in every language BUT English, laws are selective enforced, the hordes of the 3rd world are given freedom to take, demand, demean, belittle, befoul, insult, and injury this nation if it means the welfare state gets more clients, the RINO scum gets more "cheap" labor, and marxist scum import more voters that will gladly vote away your rights and vote themselves your wealth.

No set rule of law
No set property protection measures (countless regulations, property tax, etc)
No set limits on the power of the state (One party rule thanks to NYC/LA etc and its sheer population/mass immigration)
No means of appealing any ruling as the judges are clearly activists on the bench
Ranpeat fraud in elections/voting
Infrastructure collapsing while tax income is wasted in special interests or flat out stolen
A never ending acclimation of debt.

All hallmarks of a failed state...

[Ronin13]

Also the moronic support of and for wars in the Middle East...

Curious point of contention on this matter- you think we shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan after 9/11? What about intervention in Somalia during the humanitarian crisis/genocide? How do you feel about Clinton's inaction with Rwanda during a genocide? You sound, to a point, fairly libertarian in your foreign policy views, to wit I would believe that you support isolationism, correct? How did that work out in 1940/41? Do you not believe that those with the power and ability have a moral obligation to attempt to stop evil from happening? I would identify more strongly toward libertarian, with the exception of foreign policy. I honestly feel that we have an obligation to stop evil (ala 1940's Germany/Holocaust, Rwanda, and hitting back after we've been hit- see Operation Enduring Freedom).

[CS1983]

What did Afghanistan have to do with 9/11? We should have bombed the shit out of Mecca, Medina and Riyadh if tit for tat was the game.

[Great-Kazoo]

What did Afghanistan have to do with 9/11? We should have bombed the shit out of Mecca, Medina and Riyadh if tit for tat was the game.

The House of Saud should have been leveled . Correct, Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11.