Return of stolen nfa items.

[Eric P]

So NFA items were stolen from me, story unimportant, and recovered by the ATF. The party who stole them pleaded guilty and I have to wait a few months for sentencing before the ATF returns the items. I filed a claim for them and was granted the claim. The NFA was notified of the theft and they removed the items from the registry.

Just curious what hoops I'll have to jump through to get them back with the new rules. They are in a trust.

Would the ATF simply run a background check and hand over the items? I know I don't need to apply for stamps per a conversation with the NFA after they were stolen.

Curious if anyone has gone through this process and can offer up a few pointers.

Thank you.

[Hound]

Congrats on getting them back. I will be watching this thread. I want to know too.

[NFATrustGuy]

That's a new one on me, too. Nice that they were recovered. If I were helping a client through this, I'd end up doing just what you're doing... ask a bunch of questions and be patient. One thing you may want to keep in mind is that if the thief has been caught and found guilty of the theft, you can probably work through a victim advocate and essentially "file a claim" for restitution against the criminal. I haven't heard of many cases where the victim is compensated for time spent restoring his life to normal, but if the ATF charges you anything to relicense the item(s) you may be eligible to recover.

Best regards,

Rod

[Hound]

Anything ever come of this?

[Eric P]

Sentencing is beginning of April. They will not return the guns until then. Guilty pleas. They can appeal the plea if sentencing guidelines and felony level change significantly. That's why they must keep them as evidence, on the very unlikely case this still goes to trial.

The ATF, DA and VA have been very helpful. Have yet to contact NFA as have been busy with work life. Already made claims with the ATF and have been granted.

Maybe one day I'll share how they were stolen and recovered, but not until this is over since the public defender may be looking for anything to lower sentencing and my user name here can be easily connected to me.

It was weird in the court proceedings hearing me referred to by my initials. The guilty also had to forfeit ownership of the stolen goods.

[Eric P]

Anything ever come of this?

F**k, this is finally coming to an end. After many delays for various reasons, sentencing is next week. I'll let you know how the returns go. The federal courts move slow.

[Great-Kazoo]

F**k, this is finally coming to an end. After many delays for various reasons, sentencing is next week. I'll let you know how the returns go. The federal courts move slow.

It's not so much the court as the attorneys. The defense can ask for extension, delays etc. Until the judge gets tired of it and sets a trial date.

I know 1 case (state) that has been delayed 4x by the defense. The judge finally set a trial date, 2 years from initial trial.

[Eric P]

Ha, found out todat from the DA in a meeting that the judge handling this case gets a media circus to handle the following week. Taylor Swift ass grabbing /defamation case by former KYGO dj.

Sounds like all that happens to get the guns and class 3 stuff back is a simple background check. Then I call the NFA and have them relist the Class 3 stuff on the register after I repossess the items.

[vossman]

Better late than never. Glad you're getting your stuff back.

[Eric P]

Damn you Taylor Swift.

The sentencing hearing was cancelled because the "Court's busy schedule has not allowed the judge to property review and determine sentencing."

The DA said many of this judge's dockets have been delayed because of Taylor. Well maybe this celebrity should be delayed instead of the 20 or so other cases.

All I want is my property back. Judge, you have had 6 months since a guilty plea and 3 month since the last delay. Do your fricking job and serve the people, not celebrity and media.