Glocks suck!

[dan512]

First inclination is the trigger difference. Maybe some dry fire, maybe ball and dummy drills? See if you are flinching.

[mannix]

It's likely broken. Send it in for warranty repair.

haha! CLEARLY! heh.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm leaning toward grip. I don't think I've really gotten a good, consistent grip on it - whereas 1911s, they're the first pistol I shot, and I've been shooting them on and off for a long time.

Fitz91d - yup, and that's why I brought the 3" Sig. I've had my Commander/4.25" gun out with it, side by side, saw the same things. I was trying to eliminate two variables tonight - the _platform_, and my ammo. I literally put a bunch of different rounds into a bag - kinda the scraps of what I've created - from 90g to 147g projectiles, "good" projectiles, "cheap," bulk projectiles, and I have NO idea what powder charge is behind them (generally speaking, I load "good" projectiles close to max per my various load data books, and "cheap," target-y projectiles at about 60% of max, try to keep crappy bullets under their max recommended velocity).

With Remington hollow point in the Glock, and a literal handful of whatever was in the bag in the Sig, the difference was _far_ more than barrel length.

I just suck at glocks.

ahh who knows. I'm going to try a smaller backstrap, see if I can get a more consistent grip on the gun. That kinda has to be it.

Thanks!

[mannix]

Oh - sights - stock rear sight, night-sight front. Trigger is aftermarket, forget brand, but allegedly "comparable" to a "stock" 1911 trigger.

(that's optimistic marketing, but it is pretty good).

The rear sight might need some adjustment - pretty consistent POI left of POA, further left than normal - but I'd not be concerned if I were getting similar groups, just left of center - yeah, they're mostly left, but they're all over the place, whereas with a 1911, I tend to pull left a _bit_, it is not THAT bad, and the groups are pretty consistent. There's little consistency with the glock, save "left." I tend to pull left overall - that's clearly a "me" problem (the whole thing is a "me" problem....), but I'm hesitant to blame the sights.

If I could get similar groupings, sure, sights - but they're not similar. At all.

[funkymonkey1111]

maybe you're the kind of guy that just can't shoot a glock

[mannix]

maybe you're the kind of guy that just can't shoot a glock

yup. Possibly. I'm stubborn, though, I like to figure junk out.

but...if I put the effort in and STILL can't hit the ocean from a boat, I'll concede.

I can shoot my CZs just fine. Well, except that horrid DA first round, but I could get past that.

[SAnd]

Put a laser on it and watch the dot while you pull the trigger. That may show if you're doing something as you pull the trigger.

[Gman]

1911s point very naturally for me with their grip angle. To me, it's akin to pointing my finger. It's instinctive. The trigger pull is also fairly short.

Glocks have a different grip angle and don't point naturally for me. The only Glock that works well for me is their oddity that is the G36. Between a G19 and a Walther PPQ, I'll take the PPQ every time and twice on Sunday. If Glock were my only option, I'd eventually make it work, but I don't have to.

[Not_A_Llama]

Lose the white-outlined rear sight. The more inconspicuous the rear, the better. Replace it, turn it around, sharpie it out. Whatever.

If you're a 1911 guy, the trigger is probably what's bugging you the most. Pull straight rearward. It'll make you shoot your 1911s better, too.

Pay attention to where on your finger you're pulling the trigger with. A loose grip while you try different placements will help you find the one that least-disturbs your shot picture as you pull.

Ammo can make a difference. WWB shoots poorly in almost any platform, but is especially dogshit in OEM Glock barrels, from my experience.

I saw a couple people mention grip angle not feeling right. Try an experiment. Point at an object across the room. Now rotate your hand to a vertical position (like you're firing a gun) while still pointing. The angle should be familiar.

[kpp80202]

First off, you bought four 1911s in one day? Damn!

Second, I'm not sure grip angle would affect group size; it would definitely affect speed for the first on-target shot if you are not used to it. More likely, it's the trigger that's getting you, which would take practice to overcome. And by "practice" I mean a few hundred rounds of slow fire work (over multiple sessions) where you shoot only the Glock. I had similar poor grouping issues with a new Beretta 92, but after some intense practice, I could get most of the holes touching at 7 yards.

[bradbn4]

The 1911 has one of the better triggers so you will be fighting that change. Also the site picture will play a big part of it with the combo of different style sites along with a shorter barrel. The best thing I have read here is the use of either a laser on the pistol; or some sort of training aide that mimics the feel of the Glock.

You could always buy a CZ-p10