Flip side of marriage?

[Rumline]

Thanks, Webster, I know what "no trespassing" and "castle doctrine" mean. You replied to a post saying that castle doctrine doesn't apply if you kick someone out of your house and they forcibly re-enter, and you said "which also applies to no trespassing signs." Those two statements don't seem to make sense together.

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[Great-Kazoo]

Thanks, Webster, I know what "no trespassing" and "castle doctrine" mean. You replied to a post saying that castle doctrine doesn't apply if you kick someone out of your house and they forcibly re-enter, and you said "which also applies to no trespassing signs." Those two statements don't seem to make sense together.

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They're not meant to be taken together.
. In a relationship unless one gets what ever paperwork is needed to remove said person you're stuck with them.

What i mean to say is a sign, or declaration, has legal ramifications.

Some people think or believe there's "no strings attached" by living together. As a No trespassing sign also has.

[Rumline]

Got it. Thank you.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Some people think or believe there's "no strings attached" by living together.

Lee Marvin thought that and paid through the nose for his mistake. He's a fool for thinking he can just eject her whenever he wants if they're co-listed on bills or receiving mail together at the same address for over 6 months. I'm not saying he COULDN'T do that (I'm not a lawyer) but I just wouldn't assume that he could.

[Irving]

I was looking at it more along the lines of liability and injury and thinking that if that is held up in court often, insurance companies would stop selling liability insurance. Liability often hinges on whether the person is even supposed to be there.

Personally, I wouldn't be worried about ejecting someone who was trying to squat, as in most cases, they aren't going to be able to afford an attorney worth a shit anyway. I'd be very surprised if you called the police to get someone out of your house and they wouldn't do anything about it, invited guest or not. They break up house parties all the time.

[Irving]

I'm sorry, I've been stuck on the idea of people being angry or violent and then the police just walking away.

[gnihcraes]

A friend, had a girlfriend who kept coming back uninvited. He waited until police showed up, gave her a push and he was arrested for "Push Shove Kick" and restraining orders were issued for both to stay away from each other. He owned the house, so she couldn't be there. He got probation and had to have no violations for 1 year. He complied and everything is clear from the record.

ymmv.

[Great-Kazoo]

A friend, had a girlfriend who kept coming back uninvited. He waited until police showed up, gave her a push and he was arrested for "Push Shove Kick" and restraining orders were issued for both to stay away from each other. He owned the house, so she couldn't be there. He got probation and had to have no violations for 1 year. He complied and everything is clear from the record.

ymmv.

A RO prevents you from buying guns.

[gnihcraes]

A RO prevents you from buying guns.

probably so. He had some and didn't plan to purchase anything, so it was moot. Retired and moved out of state a few years later.

[68Charger]

I guess I should further elaborate and explain how this happens: People are inherently dishonest. Unless they openly admit to trespassing, this is what can and does happen. Basically when LEO arrive, you say I want this guy gone, you admit that things were okay until this morning and now you want him gone. (Truth). LEO ask Bob Barker "Do you stay here?" and Bob Barker says "I live here". It's a he said, she said type of thing after that, and LEO isn't going to require any sort of written agreement with Bob Barker. They tell you it's a civil issue, they leave. Now in reality, he's only been in your house nine hours.

From here, you might rekey the door when Bob goes to get beer. You later go to work. Bob Barker now has a locksmith come by and rekeys your own door. You call 9-11, police arrive and are aware of the prior issue. They tell you they can't do anything about it. It's a civil issue. They tell Bob Barker that he isn't supposed to deny your access to your own house. But - they don't make him. Unless you pay for a civil standby (75-150/hour), Bob Barker can sit in your house, eating your food, sleeping in your bed, spanking it to your pictures, with you keyed out of your own house. And he can keep gaining entry into the house. You can't shoot him. He can't shoot you.

This is reality meets the law. Luckily, most shitheads are not keenly aware of this "ability".

ETA: Practically, you can eject him, there's no risk of Bob Barker getting a realistic judgment even if he can afford an attorney, and he likely would fear for his life enough not to come back. Again, not legal advice. Luckily this type of thing doesn't happen often but I've seen it happen.
Key: Usually this is a relatives. Strangers/aquantinance have to have big balls to try this, but even that happens, rarely.

2nd ETA: Pro tip: Don't give a sociopath an inch. If you're ever in this circumstance, ask the person to come talk outside. Relative inside locks the doors. Deny they were ever invited, Bob Who? Don't have police show up while they are comfortably setup inside the house.

THIS ^^^^
Regardless of any common law marriage, I've seen this happen... the way the local Sheriff determined it was "does he/she get mail at this address"? (which is BS, because I can start getting mail at your address next week- I just have to put it down as my address, but Fremont Co. isn't a good example)

Bottom line, if you let someone live in your house (even on a temporary basis), then they have to be EVICTED unless they leave of their own accord... yes, the full eviction process (A civil process)... and until you have the paperwork in order that they are fully evicted, the police will not help you remove them. And if you try to forcibly remove them before then, you could be facing domestic violence charges... (which in Colorado can just be verbal abuse)

This is reality meets the law. Luckily, most shitheads are not keenly aware of this "ability".

BEWARE! When you cross paths with somebody who is aware of these rights, they can ruin your life!
Colorado really is a Democrat's paradise now.