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    That's why you need to calm down and not start with unfounded "media" blaming. It's a fluid situation where naturally there will be mistakes being made in the initial police and media response. It's a fact of early response and the instant news reporting that we live in. Miss identifying an airline in the initial aftermath of an incident is not an indication of some "media" conspiracy.
    After 24 hours and they are still misreporting, then by all means sound the conspiracy horns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOLON LABE View Post
    Still nothing to prevent someone from walking into baggage claim from outside and gunning folks down at any U.S. Airport. Or loading a taxi up with exsplosives and detonating it right outside. Or any number of things that show how easy it is to kill human beings in the 21st century.
    The TSA security theatre doesn't work, and likely neither will whatever the .gov dresms up next to keep us "safe"

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    Yep. Wouldn't be anything for some nut job to pack a backpack full of explosives, walk into a busy airport like DIA, get in that long, crowded security checkpoint, and then detonate the damn thing. Probably take out a couple hundred people if the explosion was big enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    That's not what they "reported."

    Also not being "reported" until all gun owners could indicted...

    I have that same scarf.

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    Pretty comprehensive report here. Seems the shooter may have had "PTSD" or some other psychosis. Makes me think of Major Hasan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nidal_Hasan

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    According to reports I've read, he picked up his gun in the locked case at baggage claim, took it into the bathroom, loaded it and came out firing. How would TSA be involved at all outside of the security area?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    According to reports I've read, he picked up his gun in the locked case at baggage claim, took it into the bathroom, loaded it and came out firing. How would TSA be involved at all outside of the security area?
    They're not. Every airport handles checked in firearms differently when picking up from baggage. Here in CO it's not an issue (till now) in NY when i pick up a long gun, it's to the transit authority office, show ID open for inspection then leave. In places like Fresno no one cares, @ LAX, bring lube.
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    1. Would zero security screening be better than what we have have now?

    No. I believe there should be some form of physical and technological screening methods employed, even if its profile based "random" screening.

    2. How SHOULD airport security be handled here in the U.S.? (Lets first assume we actually want some form of screening to occur before anyone steps onto an aircraft.)

    A. Limit of one carry on item per person which is screened separate to eliminate the bogged down TSA checkpoints.
    B. All checked bags dropped off and picked up outside the airport and each bag individually screened before shipment.... see bullet point I.
    C. Bomb sniffing animals employed at all gates, and roving patrols.
    D. SRT/ERT/SWAT/ insert your favorite Acronym and EMS on 24/7/365 on site at all major passenger airports.
    E. Minimum of one armed Federal Air Marshall at every gate.
    F. All US Pilots Marshaled and trained in the use of firearms.
    G. All cockpits bulletproofed.
    H. All checked bags are sent to your destination address - (Hotel, House, Business etc.)
    3. Should the TSA be: Eliminated? Improved? Armed/unarmed? Replaced, and if so by whom?

    Eliminated completely and replaced by FAMS.

    4. Would your system violate more or less constitutional rights than the current system?

    I do not believe so, and even if it did marginally I believe it would keep us safer.

    5. If the only thing you would change to the current system is the way in which firearms are transported, what changes would you make?

    None. Crazy will do crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I have that same scarf.
    Because you want to be like an A-rab?

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    Nope, because they are useful and match the color of the landscape of where I was often shooting at the time of purchase. I don't think I have that exact color.

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    The single raised finger is a jihadi gesture. Means a few things, depending on your source... one umma, the Shahada (La illaha illa Allah, Mohammad rasul Allah -- there is no god but Allah and Mohammad is his messenger), etc.

    The scarf is only really material in that context.
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