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    Default Building a .308 -> Barrel length advice

    I'm looking at finding a DPMS .308 upper for a lower that I've had for a while.

    Any advice as to barrel length? Is 16" too short for .308?

    I'm seeing tons of uppers in either 16" or 24", but not many available in lengths in between.

    How important is a forward assist on a .308 rifle?

    Thanks in advance
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    The DPMS Foward Assist is not functional on the 308 line. If you look at the bolt carrier, there's no grooves for the assist to catch on. It's basically there for cosmetics.

    How far do you want to shoot and what is it for? That will be the best determining factors as to what length that would best suit you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jh308 View Post
    The DPMS Foward Assist is not functional on the 308 line. If you look at the bolt carrier, there's no grooves for the assist to catch on. It's basically there for cosmetics.
    I just played around with the forward assist on mine and it sure seems to push the BCG all the way forward, maybe you weren't looking at the right thing..

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    Sure, it'll move the bolt carrier, but w/out the proper assist notches cut into the carrier, it won't do much when resistance is applied to the carrier. It needs the carrier notches to be able to rachet the carrier forward. When Armalite came out w/their new A4 AR-10 upper, having a foward assist that worked properly was actually one of their marketing ploys. Maybe DPMS has changed their carriers recently. Mine is almost four years old and has the original chrome carrier. Maybe yours is different. Of course, they all have the Stoner foward assist built into the carrier itself...

    ETA: I'm not the best at communication at times. For an example of what I'm try to say, take a flat head screw driver and push on your DPMS carrier at the same angle as the Foward assist hits it. Now take the same screwdiver, at the same angle and push against one of your AR15 carriers that has the forward assist grooves notched into the carrier. Notice the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jh308 View Post
    Sure, it'll move the bolt carrier, but w/out the proper assist notches cut into the carrier, it won't do much when resistance is applied to the carrier. It needs the carrier notches to be able to rachet the carrier forward. When Armalite came out w/their new A4 AR-10 upper, having a foward assist that worked properly was actually one of their marketing ploys. Maybe DPMS has changed their carriers recently. Mine is almost four years old and has the original chrome carrier. Maybe yours is different. Of course, they all have the Stoner foward assist built into the carrier itself...

    ETA: I'm not the best at communication at times. For an example of what I'm try to say, take a flat head screw driver and push on your DPMS carrier at the same angle as the Foward assist hits it. Now take the same screwdiver, at the same angle and push against one of your AR15 carriers that has the forward assist grooves notched into the carrier. Notice the difference?

    According to this article it is functional but does not work the same as on the 15 carrier.

    Third paragraph down explains.

    http://www.americanrifleman.org/Arti...?id=1474&cid=2

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    Quote Originally Posted by SU405 View Post
    According to this article it is functional but does not work the same as on the 15 carrier.

    Third paragraph down explains.

    http://www.americanrifleman.org/Arti...?id=1474&cid=2
    I stand corrected. It's functional for approx 1/4" to 3/8" of total movement.

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    A very similar gun is on my wish list for 2010.

    I want to get the LR-308 with 24 inch stainless bull barrel.

    the black teflon coating on the barrel, Fluted, threaded, suppressor

    Change the stock to a sniper setup with cheek pad.

    Harris bi pod swivel

    Iron sights and Millet 6x-24x scope with illumination, windage, elevation, mill dots, etc.

    Rails

    Lighter trigger

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    I have a DPMS LR-308B - it has an 18" bull barrel, and I couldn't be happier. It's a bit heavier than the standard 16", but it shot a 100 yard 3/4" group first time out (just sighting-in). I expect it to get better as it gets broken in. Personally, I find the extra weight an acceptable trade-off for the ability to be effective both close-up and at significant distance. PM me, and maybe we can get together so you can get a look at it, if that'll help you make a decision. Good luck.

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