Home Defense AR Safe

[Irving]

Why do you feel you need anything more than a glorified stack-on for only two guns?

[funkymonkey1111]

Why do you feel you need anything more than a glorified stack-on for only two guns?

That sorta begs the question. Perhaps they're expensive guns? Perhaps I want some semblance of deterrence and/or fire protection, also. But, I've wrestled with that very question.

but why wouldn't you want to provide the same level of protection for 1 or 2 home defense guns at the ready versus the rest of your collection?

[opie011]

have you considered the under the bed route?

https://www.amazon.com/Monster-Vault...tag=ssafety-20

i've been looking for a small safe for upstairs for 1 or 2 guns only, but cannot find anything that small that's much more than a glorified stack-on.

something like this, but would like more security

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005FDIUPE...a-272348729222

Liberty doesn't have anything that small, nor does AMSEC nor Ft. Knox. I tried to get Sturdy to build one that small and they wouldn't, either.

about the smallest two i could find that seemed worth a crap was this AMSEC and Liberty, but both are much bigger than i'm looking for:

http://www.amsecusa.com/product/tf5517/

http://www.libertysafe.com/safe-cent...html?tab=specs

Have you seen the AMSEC DV652? They run about $420

Description:

There’s no better place to store your home-defense weapon within arm’s reach than under your bed in the secure and easily accessible AMSEC Defense Vault! The High Security electronic lock is easy to use, and in a matter of seconds, the door is open and the weapon is in hand! The Defense Vault utilizes wasted space and is a great storage solution when space is limited! Larger traditional safes are typically placed in larger rooms, basements or the garage. With the Defense Vault, you will have peace of mind in knowing that you are protected within seconds of a home intrusion. Whether you currently have a safe or not, the Defense Vault should seriously be considered for any gun owner.

Outside Dimensions: 6” H x 52” W x 14” D
Tray Size: 3-3/8” x 43-1/4” x 13”
Body: 14 gauge Steel
Weight: 90

Locking Device: 5 Point Slide Locking Bar with AMSEC ESL5 Electronic Lock
Safe Color: Black
Interior: Foam Padded slide-out gun tray
Warranty: 1 Year Parts & Labor

Features:
· AMSEC’s ESL5 electronic lock with an illuminated keypad. Bright, backlit keys let you enter your PIN code, even in the dark.
· Four (4) pre-cut anchor holes with mounting hardware.

Pic taken from google.....not mine:

[drew890]

Have you seen the AMSEC DV652? They run about $420

Description:

There’s no better place to store your home-defense weapon within arm’s reach than under your bed in the secure and easily accessible AMSEC Defense Vault! The High Security electronic lock is easy to use, and in a matter of seconds, the door is open and the weapon is in hand! The Defense Vault utilizes wasted space and is a great storage solution when space is limited! Larger traditional safes are typically placed in larger rooms, basements or the garage. With the Defense Vault, you will have peace of mind in knowing that you are protected within seconds of a home intrusion. Whether you currently have a safe or not, the Defense Vault should seriously be considered for any gun owner.

Outside Dimensions: 6” H x 52” W x 14” D
Tray Size: 3-3/8” x 43-1/4” x 13”
Body: 14 gauge Steel
Weight: 90

Locking Device: 5 Point Slide Locking Bar with AMSEC ESL5 Electronic Lock
Safe Color: Black
Interior: Foam Padded slide-out gun tray
Warranty: 1 Year Parts & Labor

Features:
· AMSEC’s ESL5 electronic lock with an illuminated keypad. Bright, backlit keys let you enter your PIN code, even in the dark.
· Four (4) pre-cut anchor holes with mounting hardware.

Pic taken from google.....not mine:

I've used this amsec for the past three years.
It has served me well with zero complaints.
I believe that I paid $325 at a lgs.

[funkymonkey1111]

Do you bolt that amsec drawer to the floor? Or mount it on the bottom of your bed frame?

[drew890]

Currently mounted to the bed frame.

[Irving]

That sorta begs the question. Perhaps they're expensive guns? Perhaps I want some semblance of deterrence and/or fire protection, also. But, I've wrestled with that very question.

but why wouldn't you want to provide the same level of protection for 1 or 2 home defense guns at the ready versus the rest of your collection?

I think I'm under the impression that non-commercial safes are all pretty much glorified stack-ons. If you can cut through the side with a grinder, it doesn't really matter how many thick metal posts are in the door, or how much it weighs. Also, I'm not sure how I feel about a 30 minute fire rating. Running through the scenarios of a house fire where a safe is subjected to only 30 minutes of an intense fire before being put out seems about as statistically low as a house fire in the first place.

I'm not trying to talk anyone out of having a large safe, especially if they have nice guns (I certainly do NOT), but it seems to me that a dedicated home defense gun isn't going to be rare, or irreplaceable. If there is a larger safe somewhere else in the house to hold nicer guns, then even less of a reason for something fancy for immediate access.

[Seamonkey]

Not sure if this would work for an AR but I've got a shotgun locked with the Ruger rifle lock and connected to an eye bolt. Unlocks with a key.
Immediate issues addressed via the EDC

http://www.shootersdiscount.com/cart...-locks-3-.html

[Dave_L]

I just got this for our master bedroom:



It's called the Barska Quick Access safe. It's big enough to hold a rifle or two and some mags. It uses biometric scanner to give access and you can save as many fingerprints as you want in there. I've had my eye on them in the past but when it went on sale for like $170, I had to go for it. I realize its not a real "safe" but it was affordable and lets me keep some better options other than a pistol in my bedroom safely. It also lets my wife have access without having to remember a combo.

https://www.amazon.com/Barska-Quick-.../dp/B005FDIUPE

[Kilyung]

Can you provide info on where to get such a thing please?

It's a SecureIt locker (model 72). It weighs 240lbs alone. With its contents, mine probably tips 800lbs. It's also bolted to the floor and anchored to a metal post. It's not being carried away. I was going to get a traditional gun safe but after a lot of reflection I didn't see the logic in a safe. The locker affords me a lot more storage in a more compact space.