Immigration Ban

[CS1983]

Sure enough, Professor says " as we begin studying the Nazis you will see some incredible parallels to what is currently going on with our government" and that Trump's halting of immigration and refugees from the seven countries was appalling because:

1. The plan still let's Christians in!
2. It was written by Steve Bannon who is a racist and a bigot!
3. It only bans people from seven countries!
4. It bans entry from Iraqis and they are our allies!
5. It was announced on a Friday and initiated very poorly and inefficiently!
6. It was written very poorly!
7. People will be easily distracted by a future Trump "distraction" and he will extend the policy past its current deadline!
8. Giuliani said that Trump asked him how to ban Muslims, so it's a ban on a religion see!
9. It's a huge deal!

What a peice of work. Grit my teeth, smile, get my class credits and move on.

Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi

I knew several Iraqi terps in passing. Took them like 2-3 years to get approved for immigration under Obama as documented good to go, documented death threats, documented fleeing Iraq to Syria and Jordan. In that part of the world, 2-3 years is effectively a death sentence for such folks.

Here's an article from 2013:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3481555.html

Note how Falzl was working for us from 2009-2012 and waited over a year for the first round of interviews; his colleagues 2-3 years.

That was entirely under Obama.

Under Obama:
Christians were underrepresented for entry admission in comparison to their presence in the population of the Middle East; while waiting in refugee camps they were subject to even more or worse treatment than they experienced elsewhere
He often did things on a Friday with poor initiation and inefficiency
Obamacare isn't exactly good prose
Obama took credit for withdrawing troops, not by executive fiat but by letting the Bush admin's SOFA expiring -- he campaigned as if he'd just go in and cancel it and pull out

[davsel]

I knew several Iraqi terps in passing. Took them like 2-3 years to get approved for immigration under Obama as documented good to go, documented death threats, documented fleeing Iraq to Syria and Jordan. In that part of the world, 2-3 years is effectively a death sentence for such folks.

Here's an article from 2013:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3481555.html

Note how Falzl was working for us from 2009-2012 and waited over a year for the first round of interviews; his colleagues 2-3 years.

That was entirely under Obama.

Under Obama:
Christians were underrepresented for entry admission in comparison to their presence in the population of the Middle East; while waiting in refugee camps they were subject to even more or worse treatment than they experienced elsewhere
He often did things on a Friday with poor initiation and inefficiency
Obamacare isn't exactly good prose
Obama took credit for withdrawing troops, not by executive fiat but by letting the Bush admin's SOFA expiring -- he campaigned as if he'd just go in and cancel it and pull out

Here's the story of some of these fine Iraqi informants who were "vetted" and allowed to immigrate after helping our soldiers in Iraq: Colorado: Guilty verdict in Muslim gang rape of elderly woman
The lead investigator is a friend of mine - says he has never seen anything as horrific as this case.

[CS1983]

I can tell you of two folks with Top Secret clearances who leaked info. Vetting only says you are not known to have been or done x y or z. There is no magical solution to being a fallen human being. Adam did eat the fruit, after all.

[TFOGGER]

I'm literally laughing out loud. Thank you, this made my day...

[Dave_L]

I can tell you of two folks with Top Secret clearances who leaked info. Vetting only says you are not known to have been or done x y or z. There is no magical solution to being a fallen human being. Adam did eat the fruit, after all.

You mean...like background checks with firearms?

[CS1983]

You mean...like background checks with firearms?

Yes, though I personally disbelieve in the idea of sub-citizens and the subsequent need for a BGC for a firearm. I'd like to see Felons put to death or otherwise do away with the ruination of a man's life where he pays for his crime after paying for his crime, but that's another topic.

[Dave_L]

Yes, though I personally disbelieve in the idea of sub-citizens and the subsequent need for a BGC for a firearm. I'd like to see Felons put to death or otherwise do away with the ruination of a man's life where he pays for his crime after paying for his crime, but that's another topic.

Agreed. I just like to see how the left is all about "trusting" non-citizens but wants more restrictions on citizens to exercise rights.

[roberth]

I love watching the leftist morons at work explode over this new vetting procedure.

They don't know that it only applies to 7 countries, they don't know that it is temporary, they don't know that their messiah did the same thing, they don't know shit but they're crying over it.

I wonder if they'd feel differently if one of their messiahs children raped and murdered their daughter, probably not as "you have break some eggs to make omelette".

[Skip]

Agreed. I just like to see how the left is all about "trusting" non-citizens but wants more restrictions on citizens to exercise rights.

Isn't that always the game plan? They turn a thing into a chaotic mess and then claim they have the answer that invariably involves more government under their exclusive control.

Too much crime (promotion of violence, destroying families/churches, weak sentencing/revolving door justice system) = police state
Healthcare is too expensive (after gov intervention) = socialize it
Middle class is too irresponsible with money (after creating a consumption based economy) = take their paychecks and give them programs


I don't believe they (elite Dems) actually care about these immigrants/refugees. They are just using them to accomplish political goals.

[roberth]

Isn't that always the game plan? They turn a thing into a chaotic mess and then claim they have the answer that invariably involves more government under their exclusive control.

Too much crime (promotion of violence, destroying families/churches, weak sentencing/revolving door justice system) = police state
Healthcare is too expensive (after gov intervention) = socialize it
Middle class is too irresponsible with money (after creating a consumption based economy) = take their paychecks and give them programs


I don't believe they (elite Dems) actually care about these immigrants/refugees. They are just using them to accomplish political goals.

You are correct, they do not have actual compassion or concern, the immigrants/refugees are just a means to an end.