Immigration Ban

[Great-Kazoo]

Tangentally related enough that I don't feel like making a new thread, but it really is feeling like a new civil war is brewing (or at the very least a rebellion is forming). The other day was talk about the California secession vote people are trying to force, now I read that they're looking at stoping payments to the federal government in retaliation for the feds withholding money from "sanctuary cities."

We're living in interesting times of the Chinese variety, to be sure.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...trump-threats/

Once again the comments make it interesting. Considering the majority of them are CA residents, it will be interesting times.

California is about to learn what every pot smoking teenager eventually learns.

Well, if it’s economical, it won’t be very bad…

Melanie, you do know that “Illegal Immigrants are NOT “citizens”, don’t you? If not, you may wish to change that “public school graduate” avatar.

One of the better and factual comments

This California wealth, you all keep dropping, is from agricultural farming from die hard Republican areas, not trashy liberal fascists who don’t want to get jobs because it would take away from protest time.

[KAPA]

Why is it dumb for a green card holder to leave the country?

If you are not a citizen and you left the country to visit one of these questionable regions expecting to come back a week after he took office you put yourself in this situation. He has been saying it from the beginning, I'm just glad to see that he is at least trying to do things he said he would.

[Zundfolge]

Tangentally related enough that I don't feel like making a new thread, but it really is feeling like a new civil war is brewing (or at the very least a rebellion is forming).

In the run up to the election I seriously agreed with you there (and had Hillary won and controlled the guns of the state, maybe) but I've come to realize that we're really up against a paper tiger here.

Leftists will sabre rattle but that's it. Most of them are incredibly soft and cowardly people. Just look at the AntiFA idiot that punched Richard Spencer ... really, with a running sucker punch you can't knock a bookish nerd to the ground?

I believe there are a lot of leftists that think they would love to see a civil war, but it would last 7-10 hours because 90% of the guns are on our side (both in civilian hands and the military) and they'd come out on the losing end.

Go watch videos of what happens when AntiFA black bloc fools run into bikers or blue collar workin' folk trying to get to work. You see weak little baristas and gender studies majors clad in black hoodies prattling on about Fascism and White Supremacy getting the shit knocked out of them and then they cry to the police (that they were just calling Nazis) to do something about it and finding themselves arrested. Go read the whiny little AntiFA bitches complaining that they're facing serious felony charges now for their antics instead of the disorderly conduct charges they used to face and how unfair it is. These people are simply not serious and shouldn't be taken as such.

[GilpinGuy]

Tangentally related enough that I don't feel like making a new thread, but it really is feeling like a new civil war is brewing (or at the very least a rebellion is forming). The other day was talk about the California secession vote people are trying to force, now I read that they're looking at stoping payments to the federal government in retaliation for the feds withholding money from "sanctuary cities."

I don't know about a civil war, but the divide is getting wider, as planned by the left.

While anecdotal, I've seen an uptick in racial skirmishes at the casino: black dude calling white dude "Trump Boy" and white trash guy going off on hispanics saying "go home, Trump is POTUS now" (Hispanic chick then spit in his face), and on and on. All involved are assholes.

The left is winning. And while I'm glad Trump beat Hillary, it's going to get worse.

As far as Cali leaving, it would be nice, but none of the other blue states would ever go along with it

[jslo]

Don't know that the "left is winning"?
They continue to do the same things that lost them over 1000 government seats in the last 6 years.

[RblDiver]

I'm a bit surprised this hasn't been reported more. A co-founder and current CEO of Lyft, Logan Green, has just pledged $1 million over the next 4 years to the ACLU. https://twitter.com/logangreen/statu...56698832834560

(Meanwhile, Uber's response was much more reasonable and measured: https://www.facebook.com/traviskal/p...31814113506421 )

[Honey Badger282.8]

Lyft spammed my email with some pro-aclu garbage as well.

[GilpinGuy]

Don't know that the "left is winning"?
They continue to do the same things that lost them over 1000 government seats in the last 6 years.

They are winning in the sense that they are dividing us further and further. Classic Saul Alinsky and "Rules for Radicals".

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Go watch videos of what happens when AntiFA black bloc fools run into bikers or blue collar workin' folk trying to get to work. You see weak little baristas and gender studies majors clad in black hoodies prattling on about Fascism and White Supremacy getting the shit knocked out of them and then they cry to the police (that they were just calling Nazis) to do something about it and finding themselves arrested. Go read the whiny little AntiFA bitches complaining that they're facing serious felony charges now for their antics instead of the disorderly conduct charges they used to face and how unfair it is. These people are simply not serious and shouldn't be taken as such.

Agreed on antifa. I'm really not worried about them.

The Left is sorely lacking in foot soldiers. Every SJW is a thought leader but never a real soldier. Someone who won't get a job, or cries about a felony charge like you said, isn't going to take a round for the cause.

The Left has been looking for some good soldiers for decades which I why I think they play the race games, but it is failing. Even in the peak of Ferguson/Baltimore they tried to paint it as "white supremacy" (indicting groups on race) but it fizzled.

In the WoT Libs found a new useful group (which is the very subject of this thread). Notice how the coalition didn't exist prior but now the Left is concerned with religious freedom (for some people)? To the extent that they will ignore what Sharia says about women and gays. But the Christian baker couldn't have his conscious, of course.

They're giving up a lot to bring Islam into their fold and at great risk. Even if they beat us, there is massive conflict on their horizon.

[MarkCO]

I think everyone decrying this needs to take an English class and a class on the Constitution...

Suspension of allowing people into our Country from those Countries with unstable governments or with who we have no diplomatic relations...because we can't officially operate there to do the needed work to clear these people. That is legal and reasonable. They are making it into something it is not.

Did maybe a few people get caught in the net? Maybe, but they are getting sorted out. Interesting that 3 of the 4 judges only dealt with that small group.