Company that would build underground Shooting lane on private property?

[tmckay2]

Yep.

If this underground range is tied to residential property, it could negatively impact your property value.

Valid points, however, if you want to buy property to shoot on you are looking at buying out in Pawnee or something. Which is fine except why not just shoot at pawnee. Sort of defeats the purpose. The idea is to be able to go blast away whenever. And while it can affect property value, we built our forever home so until we simply can't care for the home anymore we plan to stay there. Obviously things change, but frankly property values can go up or down depending on anything you do, such as a pool, shed, whatever. Some people want it, some dont.

[Great-Kazoo]

Valid points, however, if you want to buy property to shoot on you are looking at buying out in Pawnee or something. Which is fine except why not just shoot at pawnee. Sort of defeats the purpose. The idea is to be able to go blast away whenever. And while it can affect property value, we built our forever home so until we simply can't care for the home anymore we plan to stay there. Obviously things change, but frankly property values can go up or down depending on anything you do, such as a pool, shed, whatever. Some people want it, some dont.

Another issue is Lead Mitigation. Building it correctly with permits and associated cost will, again, put you in the $50-100K range. You have well water? Once a neighbor gets wind of it (zoning hearing) they'll shut you down real quick. Under the guise of lead leaching in to ground water and other assorted "panic" issues.
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The area surrounding Liberty Range face hysterics from the time it was announced. What if, how come, why, what about the children, shit mentality. If you have just 1 I'm With Hillary or Bernie 2016 sticker in your area, GFL.

[tmckay2]

Another issue is Lead Mitigation. Building it correctly with permits and associated cost will, again, put you in the $50-100K range. You have well water? Once a neighbor gets wind of it (zoning hearing) they'll shut you down real quick. Under the guise of lead leaching in to ground water and other assorted "panic" issues.
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The area surrounding Liberty Range face hysterics from the time it was announced. What if, how come, why, what about the children, shit mentality. If you have just 1 I'm With Hillary or Bernie 2016 sticker in your area, GFL.

Lead mitigation isn't really a problem. The fella and I discussed that and had a few solutions. Neighbors would actually be the biggest issue, though they aren't extreme liberals as we have discussed guns and such before.

The idea is you don't say "hey I'm building a gun range". You have it designed but when building call it somrthing else, just as people with safe rooms and vaults often do. The issue is simply the legalities of shooting, even underground, as well as neighbors hearing it. Even with sound proofing it could be a problem. Get those two things figured out then it's simply money.

[Great-Kazoo]

Lead mitigation isn't really a problem. The fella and I discussed that and had a few solutions. Neighbors would actually be the biggest issue, though they aren't extreme liberals as we have discussed guns and such before.

The idea is you don't say "hey I'm building a gun range". You have it designed but when building call it somrthing else, just as people with safe rooms and vaults often do. The issue is simply the legalities of shooting, even underground, as well as neighbors hearing it. Even with sound proofing it could be a problem. Get those two things figured out then it's simply money.

Curious who you're talking to to say it isn't a problem ? You want an underground range, go for it. IF you ever sell your home, or there's an issue with a neighbor. Better have a good lawyer and very deep pockets. Those EPA fuktards get wind of a range, especially underground and they didn't have input.................

Now if you do it, don't say anything to anyone. Rent a backhoe or find a forum member with one, pay them $$ do the install on a week day and call it good.

[tmckay2]

Curious who you're talking to to say it isn't a problem ? You want an underground range, go for it. IF you ever sell your home, or there's an issue with a neighbor. Better have a good lawyer and very deep pockets. Those EPA fuktards get wind of a range, especially underground and they didn't have input.................

Now if you do it, don't say anything to anyone. Rent a backhoe or find a forum member with one, pay them $$ do the install on a week day and call it good.

I more just mean we talked about the lead issue way back when and there are some affordable solutions for a single lane private range that commercial ranges just don't have.

[Gman]

Another issue is Lead Mitigation.

This is the primary issue in my comment about affecting property value. It's not a matter of whether or not new owners want a range or not. If it's attached to the home, any future buyer will be concerned about lead making its way into the living spaces.

[tmckay2]

this isnt exactly true. you arent thinking about...your safety. nobody shooting around you. not having to take down or set up targets, etc. I have an 800 meter range out my back door, AR500 steel plates at every 100 meters and a bunch at 100. You cant drive off road let alone leave targets at the Pawnee. I can run my 4wheeler out, paint targets, etc. So there are some advantages.

I doubt any contractor would do this without a permit of some sort. (you may find the right person). I cant image the county would let you put in an underground range. Sure you can shoot on your property above ground, but when you start wanting to do permanent things, they want public hearings, safety studies, environmental impact reports, noise mitigation, traffic and who knows what else.

That being said you could easily bury a 3-4 foot diameter galvanized culvert and dig an underground block lined structure to shoot from. I think larue had something like that. Im sure that isnt what you are wanting though. Good luck though if you can swing it, I would be nice. For me, I dont mind the elements and couldnt ever afford a proper underground structure.

I can't possibly imagine any convenience factor of having to purchase the property vs the spot I have at pawnee now. I drive off road no problem, super flat, elevated ground for bavk stop, no major roads, hidden from the road, 1000 yard range easy. Now if I lived out there sure it would be useful. To buy a piece that I have to drive to just like I do to the public land I shoot on? What's the point? I'd have a hard time finding a better piece AND I would have to pay for it.

[tmckay2]

I thought you were talking about buying and moving to it. no buying the land just to shoot on wouldnt be good.

Haha gotcha. Your comment makes sense now since there was that confusion.