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    Default Scott Adams on Republicans and Democrats

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1568508...ut-republicans

    Good article but I particularly like the scenario he sets up:

    So let’s try this thought experiment.Let’s say there is a group of Trump-supporting racists – the violent kind that I have never met – that starts terrorizing an African-American neighbor of yours. And let’s say it turns into a violent confrontation between the racists and the victim family. The neighborhood hears some commotion and pours into the streets. The racists have weapons and they are about to kill the family that was just minding its own business. The police are on the way, but not in time. Violence is about to happen.
    Suddenly a shot rings out. A bullet goes through the back of the scariest racist’s head and hollows out his skull. He drops like a rock. The other racists drop their weapons and flee.
    Who fired the shot that saved the African-American family? Was it a Republican or a Democrat?
    He comes to the same answer by a different means but my immediate thought was it had to be a Republican because the stereotypical Democrat doesn't have a gun or know how to use it ...

    His (admittedly more legitimate) answer was that Republicans police their own more than Democrats -- which is why we DON'T see arson and looting as the aftermaths (or main events) of Republican rallies and demonstrations.

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    I really enjoy Scott Adams' blog- a well-reasoned read that brings sanity back around.
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    The racist isn't "our ranks" and never was.

    I'm about damned tired of the presumption the KKK is a manifestation of "the Right." It's not. And again, never was. And I reject an argument that Conservatives are all closeted KKKers held in check by others who "police our own."

    Show of hands... How many of you have seen a KKKer in the wild? How many of you have heard someone say "let's go burn down that black family's house!" I've been to rallies, gun shows, on multiple discussion boards, and I've never seen it/heard it/read it.

    We don't see Republicans destroying things because Republicans are trying to maintain a thing they love. Democrats are beating people, burning things, and destroying because they are trying to destroy something they hate. It's a manifestation of values, and yes, it's just that simple. There isn't some hidden hand keeping Conservatives/Republicans in line.

    Don't get me wrong, Conservatives may very well use violence. But it would be the last resort after all other measures have failed and it would have to be legitimized (self defense, declaration of war, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Show of hands... How many of you have seen a KKKer in the wild? How many of you have heard someone say "let's go burn down that black family's house!" I've been to rallies, gun shows, on multiple discussion boards, and I've never seen it/heard it/read it.
    While I didn't know it at the time (early jr. high years), one of my best friend's father was actually one of the (possibly main) KKK officials in the town I lived in. I spent a fair amount of time in their home, though I didn't interact with the father very much, because he worked a lot. Didn't strike me as odd, as my father worked a lot too.
    While I never heard any outright threats of violence towards anyone, they did have a room in the basement which contained materials which could be combined in a fashion so as to be utilized for "stump and rock removal" at their cabin. That's what I was told, and at my age it was a perfectly viable response. Many people had mountain cabins. Were they also used for nefarious purposes? I have no idea, but don't remember news reports of bombings, suspicious or otherwise.

    He (the father) was later arrested in an explosives selling sting. He was alleged to have ties to several tax protest and right-wing paramilitary groups (KKK, Posse Comitatus, among others).

    So, after all that, I guess I not only know of one, but I actually knew one. As a side note, one of the older (high school aged) brothers went to a halloween kegger in what was described as a "unnervingly authentic looking" hooded white robe.
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    Lest we all forget history:
    • the KKK was left wing Democrats
    • Hitler was a left wing Socialist
    • Mao was a left wing Socialist
    • Pol Pot was a left wing Communist


    The Republicans have never been racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Show of hands... How many of you have seen a KKKer in the wild? How many of you have heard someone say "let's go burn down that black family's house!" I've been to rallies, gun shows, on multiple discussion boards, and I've never seen it/heard it/read it.
    One definite KKK met and one most likely white suprimist. I was working down in Elizabeth Colorado. They hired a new fellow...as I got to know him he started talking about his childhood...about being at some political rally at about 7 years old and handing out recruitment pamphlets for the KKK. Later I asked him if he was a white supremist, a skinhead, and a KKK...he was almost violent in his denial of the first 2...and would not answer about KKK...neither would he answer that he was nor deny being a KKK. It was about this same time I found out that Elizabeth Colorado is a huge center of racist activities. I spotted a church there with 3 crosses out back. Asked another local who said...oh...you saw that place...um yah...they burn those crosses monthly. It was then that I began to find out the town is like the white supremist capital of Colorado.

    The likely white supremist I encountered working at the Colorado Railroad Museum. A young couple and their kid came in. They had tattoos all over them...I didn't look too closely. Then I noticed the kid (less than 5 years old)had a shirt with F*** You on it. I then started looking closer at the parents...iron crosses...swastikas...white power type stuff tattooed all over both of them. I said likely as I didn't ask...frankly didn't want to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    Lest we all forget history:
    • the KKK was left wing Democrats
    • Hitler was a left wing Socialist
    • Mao was a left wing Socialist
    • Pol Pot was a left wing Communist


    The Republicans have never been racist.
    A good number of the mass shooters have been liberal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Show of hands... How many of you have seen a KKKer in the wild? How many of you have heard someone say "let's go burn down that black family's house!" I've been to rallies, gun shows, on multiple discussion boards, and I've never seen it/heard it/read it.
    When I was growing up in CA, one of the big wigs of the KKK (or one of its offshoots) lived 3 doors down from me. I heard more racial epithets and threats than I care to remember. He was also a registered Democrat (as are most of them - the Southern Poverty Law Center has proven then time and time again).

    Ignorant fools who want to do harm to others because of their race/nationality/sexual orientation/etc do exist. We are currently fighting a war with people who believe similarly.
    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post
    While I didn't know it at the time (early jr. high years), one of my best friend's father was actually one of the (possibly main) KKK officials in the town I lived in. I spent a fair amount of time in their home, though I didn't interact with the father very much, because he worked a lot. Didn't strike me as odd, as my father worked a lot too.
    While I never heard any outright threats of violence towards anyone, they did have a room in the basement which contained materials which could be combined in a fashion so as to be utilized for "stump and rock removal" at their cabin. That's what I was told, and at my age it was a perfectly viable response. Many people had mountain cabins. Were they also used for nefarious purposes? I have no idea, but don't remember news reports of bombings, suspicious or otherwise.

    He (the father) was later arrested in an explosives selling sting. He was alleged to have ties to several tax protest and right-wing paramilitary groups (KKK, Posse Comitatus, among others).

    So, after all that, I guess I not only know of one, but I actually knew one. As a side note, one of the older (high school aged) brothers went to a halloween kegger in what was described as a "unnervingly authentic looking" hooded white robe.
    What year was this?

    Were there reports of black folks being hauled to the hills or gone missing during this time? Don't recall any such things in Colorado in my lifetime.

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    Conservatives don't lynch people.

    Perhaps it was the accosted neighbor defending themselves?

    Does it matter, Dem or Repub?
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