The White Paper On Firearms Regulations

[Ah Pook]

Does this have legs or just blowing more smoke?

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/doc...ulations/2325/

A white paper by the second highest-ranking official at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Internal document lays outs several proposals to reduce firearms regulations.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.c8daba686376

The second-highest-ranking official at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has written a proposal to reduce gun regulations, including examining a possible end to the ban on importing assault weapons into the United States.

[GilpinGuy]

After a quick perusal, there seems to be a lot of logic in this guy's paper. Therefore, government will reject it.

We can hope though.

[Great-Kazoo]

Potential for some items, or so i've heard from a few sources. The HPA might become reality in the next year and 1/2.


The question is when presented what items if it becomes a congressional issue, would those opposed add to a bill to make it unacceptable to those supporting

Say PP gets defunded. The opposing team throws wording in the bill to not only re-fund PP, but forces Hobby Lobby to pay for any and all contraceptives.

One can only hope for the best outcome. A Tiger and mags for under $1500, count me in.

[vossman]

Kazoo, I hate the way they do shit like that.

[rondog]

I was surprised to read about this in the grossly liberal Denver Post. Of course there were comments from hand-wringing ninnies, but still.....

[Guylee]

I won't hold my breath on most of them, but I'll take any opportunity I can get to help them along.

[Rucker61]

I was surprised to read about this in the grossly liberal Denver Post. Of course there were comments from hand-wringing ninnies, but still.....

I wasn't able to find the story on DP online.

[O2HeN2]

The ATF would like nothing more than to satiate gun owners via administrative changes. They would be able to continue to justify their bloated bureaucracy and when an anti-gun administration comes back into power, they could return to their old ways by a mere change in enforcement, as easily as they're doing now.

It's smoke and mirrors, don't fall for it. We need to drive legislative changes that will tie their hands and hopefully put a ton of them out of a job.

As I read somewhere else, don't fool yourself into believing that the ATF has had a "Come to Jesus moment". They are like a living, breathing entity that is trying to protect itself.

O2

[Rucker61]

The ATF would like nothing more than to satiate gun owners via administrative changes. They would be able to continue to justify their bloated bureaucracy and when an anti-gun administration comes back into power, they could return to their old ways by a mere change in enforcement, as easily as they're doing now.

They're smaller now than they were in 2001.

https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/...ing-and-budget

It's smoke and mirrors, don't fall for it. We need to drive legislative changes that will tie their hands and hopefully put a ton of them out of a job.

They have a job that they need to do better:

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/bjs/grants/239272.pdf

In 2010, 76,000 prohibited persons were denied via a NICS check, including 34k felons and 13k fugitives. Of that 76k, 4700 were sent by ATF to the field for further investigation. 62 cases were referred for prosecution. 13 (13!) were convicted. These are the folks that go on to buy guns for crimes through straw purchases, illegal street sales and through theft. They committed a felony when they tried to buy the gun from an FFL. With these people off the streets we'd see a bigger impact to crime reduction than can be expected from new gun control, and we can use those numbers against the anti's.

As I read somewhere else, don't fool yourself into believing that the ATF has had a "Come to Jesus moment". They are like a living, breathing entity that is trying to protect itself.

O2

i think it's more likely that this was an application letter for the current deputy head of ATF to become the permanent head of ATF. Pretty well written, in that case.

[DireWolf]

They're smaller now than they were in 2001.

https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/...ing-and-budget



They have a job that they need to do better:

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/bjs/grants/239272.pdf

In 2010, 76,000 prohibited persons were denied via a NICS check, including 34k felons and 13k fugitives. Of that 76k, 4700 were sent by ATF to the field for further investigation. 62 cases were referred for prosecution. 13 (13!) were convicted. These are the folks that go on to buy guns for crimes through straw purchases, illegal street sales and through theft. They committed a felony when they tried to buy the gun from an FFL. With these people off the streets we'd see a bigger impact to crime reduction than can be expected from new gun control, and we can use those numbers against the anti's.



i think it's more likely that this was an application letter for the current deputy head of ATF to become the permanent head of ATF. Pretty well written, in that case.

I see absolutely no reason those productive endeavors couldn't be handled by the FBI, and likely in a far more effective fashion...

BATFE should never have been allowed to exist/persist (at least as a law enforcement agency), and the new Administration has an opportunity to correct a massive wrong which has been inflicted upon American Citizens....