Thanks for all the great replies. I learned to drive in the mid eighties in a '68 Ford half ton with a four speed and armstrong steering. That was long before cell phones and cup holders were those flimsy plastic things you hung off you window. I think you had to be a lot more engaged with your vehicle and the road. Driving is arguably the most dangerous thing most of us will do in our daily lives and it bugs me that so many people take it so lightly. Although I really like manual transmissions, I admit I have grown to like the autos in the Taco and Tundras at work for going off the beaten path.