thanks for the info, gents--i went to liberty firearms institute today--I had never been there--that is quite a setup they have.

I ended up talking to Wes (the purchasing manager in esaabye's post) for about 30 minutes--he was incredibly helpful, and I'd honestly say it was the single most pleasant experience i've ever had in a gun store in the past 28 years.

OK, tek-lok, or ELS?