Shootout over the Army's new $580 million handgun

[mtnrider]

... the filing by Glock is pretty much standard fare. If Glock had won, S&W or SIG would have done the same thing.

^Bingo. Pretty much standard in government contract bidding, I see it all the time. 99.9999% chance nothing will come out of it.


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[sampson]

[KevDen2005]

It's all about SAFETY Boys...

"The P320 maximizes peace of mind with a robust safety system. Never again will you need to pull the trigger to disassemble your pistol."

I would bet this has to be at the top of the list. The army/military, hates weapons without safety systems. The trigger is obviously a no go. And playing devils advocate I can think of three people right now in my platoon that would have shot a round while cleaning their firearms. However, everyone knows not everyone gets a pistol, and that on the topic of safety systems I can recall never seeing any ammo when our weapons were cleaned during my 7 years. I think it's still punishable by death if you bring ammo off the range, right?

[KevDen2005]

Nice. Personally I love Glock and wished that was the army's choice.

[OneGuy67]

All MP's are issued M9's as their primary weapon. On deployments, they had both and during state activations, they always carried their M9. That being said, its a piece of crap. The roll out of an attachable lower rail system for a light mount/laser was an extra expense contract for someone that was really unnecessary. Wasted money.

Happy for Sig. Prefer them over the Glock any day.

[Fmedges]

I would bet this has to be at the top of the list. The army/military, hates weapons without safety systems. The trigger is obviously a no go. And playing devils advocate I can think of three people right now in my platoon that would have shot a round while cleaning their firearms. However, everyone knows not everyone gets a pistol, and that on the topic of safety systems I can recall never seeing any ammo when our weapons were cleaned during my 7 years. I think it's still punishable by death if you bring ammo off the range, right?

They don't punish anyone with death anymore for anything it would seem.

[Skip]

Sig actually read the solicitation and submitted a system that met requirements. They also got the price per unit down to beat everyone else having learned from losing the M9 contract on price.

Glock submitted their same old 30 year old design and ignored the specs. Because Glock is perfection so why would they change?

Oh well.

The P320 is a great design (frames, mags, slides all adaptable around a FCU) taking the best of the P250 and ditching the horrible trigger for a decent striker. When Sig puts out a X/M17 model (and they will) I might pick one up if it's reasonable.

[hurley842002]

Glock submitted their same old 30 year old design and ignored the specs. Because Glock is perfection so why would they change?

I'm a Glock guy through and through, I just shoot them well, but this is pretty much the tale of the tape. If you refuse to be innovative, eventually you start losing out on big contracts.

[Gman]

Sig actually read the solicitation and submitted a system that met requirements.

If you want something specific, you write the solicitation so that only your vendor of choice can meet those requirements.

[Scanker19]

I loved the M9. It always worked for me. The magazines were the worst part and the cause of most of the failures I saw.

Sure the grip is a bit big, but how long will it take joe to lose the back straps? Or before the unit tosses them? So we can make them CoE then it's one more thing for joe to lose then pay for. Sweet. Just what soldiers need.